The draws have been really good for NA/EU

xJLx MCHammer·Oct 10, 2016·10 votes·1,530 views

Honestly, SSG is the weakest of the Korean Teams. ANX is a "wildcard" team.

Both H2k and C9 have the best matchups they could ever get. High change of seeing them in semi maybe even in finals.

41 Comments

HemanthOct 10, 20165 votes

SSG is playing way way better than ROX

KazaLyn ShaoOct 10, 20164 votes

SSG "weakest" of Korean teams, yet the "weakest" Korean team smashed the "best NA team ever" this week, along with everyone else in their group. C9 only beat IM.

Dust MarloweOct 10, 20161 votes

They beat TSM, yes. However, smashed is not accurate. "Smashed" would be what they did to Splyce and RNG. Both teams made a lot of mistakes that game and SSG had much better late game comp. They won b/c game went late. Worst game Bjergsen has played in quite a while. SSG is a solid team, though.

TBakesOct 10, 20164 votes

They have to ban Viktor against Crown. Only way out.

FórsaOct 10, 20163 votes

Actually ANX is eu too.

B00B00Oct 10, 20161 votes

yeh its funny how people over look that.

SmileInABoxOct 10, 20161 votes

Isn't it technically CIS or CIL or something?

DoktorKaiserOct 11, 20161 votes

Yes they are from the Russian server, so you can say that they are EU.

YCitizenSnipsYOct 10, 20162 votes

Lol C9 did not get lucky. SSG will win that match up easily.

xJLx MCHammerOct 10, 20161 votes

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Lol C9 did not get lucky. SSG will win that match up easily.

It's better than Rox or RNG

YCitizenSnipsYOct 10, 20163 votes

SSG beat RNG twice. They would have rather gotten RNG.

xJLx MCHammerOct 10, 20161 votes

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SSG beat RNG twice. They would have rather gotten RNG.

RNG and C9 cant match. They are both seat 2

Kal Vas FlamOct 11, 20161 votes

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It's better than Rox or RNG

ROX and RNG both looked pretty mortal right now IMO. RNG actually looks downright bad compared to what's expected of them. If anything this will be a real test for C9, because if they can beat SSG in a Bo5 then they can beat anyone.

YfrappefortOct 10, 20162 votes

I don't quite agree with SSG being the weakest Korean team. Rox has shown much more inconsistency then SSG who appears way more solid. C9 is gonna get beated down to crisp unless a miracle happen.

Agreed on the H2K VS Albus matchup. Best both team could hope for.

rtbf234962475Oct 10, 20162 votes

When You say EU, you mean ANX right? Anivia

MazariamontiOct 10, 20162 votes

I won't say Cloud 9 will beat Samsung, or even come close really. But it's going to be a lot different playing against Samsung than it will be playing against SKT. Faker completely shut down and beat down Jensen and honestly made every other opposing player in the group look silly with that level of domination. The Crown that I saw in week 1 and 2 won't do that. No way.

People seem to be ignoring that it was TSM that completely demolished Samsung for their only loss, a talented team (which Cloud 9 and TSM are) can do that to them again. Not saying Cloud 9 will, since honestly they were pretty fucking lucky that SKT doesn't take games off and beat Flash Wolves for them. But yeah, I can foresee a scenario where Samsung falls back to Earth and Cloud 9 gets their shit together and it becomes a real series. Not likely, but possible.

TheSequelsRBadOct 10, 20161 votes

Wouldn't say high chance, but they got shot, which is the best they can hope for.

xJLx MCHammerOct 10, 20161 votes

I mean high chance considering when you look at the left bracket...Rox, EDG, RNG, and SKT. Right side is..well...

MasziiOct 10, 20162 votes

Tbh they have a higher chance vs RNG/EDG than vs SSG.

DraqoneOct 10, 20161 votes

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Tbh they have a higher chance vs RNG/EDG than vs SSG.

They wouldn't be able to play RNG/EDG because all teams were second in their groups. If C9 made first place in groups they'd have a much better matchup.

MasziiOct 11, 20161 votes

Sherlock, look at the comment im responding to.

Zach SandwhichOct 10, 20161 votes

Hey, ANX has been doing really fucking well considering they're a wildcard. They have some hope to go on to finals.

Not saying i'm wanting them to cause you know, C9 is my last hope for NA to win.

101100111000Oct 10, 20161 votes

Does being the weakest of the Korean Teams in the Quarters mean anything?

That just means they're not as good as the 2-time Champions.

Like what.

DoktorKaiserOct 10, 20161 votes

Wtf are you smoking man ? ROX looked really really bad, SSG only looked kind of shaky in the first week losing to TSM, but as many KR/CN teams they came guns blazing into week 2, Crown looked like a beast and I think they will destroy C9 who barely beat IMay with 15k gold lead. SKT again is going to win obviously, unless they all have collective strokes, H2K is the same deal as RNG, either they play like gods or bronzies, and since its BO5, I dont give them much chance, because honestly ANX were the best non Korean team by far and most consistent one. So IMO semis will be SKT-ROX 3 2 and SSG-ANX 3 1, final SKT-SSG, easy 3 0 for SKT and we get too many SKT skins to remember which one is from which year kappa.

MasziiOct 10, 20163 votes

XD putting ANX trough vs H2K is funny but also letting them win a game of SSG is even funnier.

DoktorKaiserOct 11, 20161 votes

When you have a team like that, who picks weird comps, has a lot of pocket picks and isnt very popular, you dont know how to prepare. With the current meta, snowballing is very heavy and honestly ANX showed that they can finish the game when they have the lead unlike many other western teams (C9 for example) so I dont see why the fuck not. That is of course if they keep their group stage form and not play like idiots, dont forget how H2K and SSG played in weak 1, that may happen again but ofc anything is possible. I just hope for them to do well because they are the most fun team to watch honestly.

FableBlazeOct 11, 20161 votes

If week 1 H2K shows up, the ANX is likely to win. Not "gg ez" type of likely, but still... However even week 1 H2K is unlikely to give ANX an early lead.

As for the final. SSG vs SKT is obvously the most likely. But i really hope that either C9 (or if it comes to that then H2K/ANX) will beat SSG. Enough of asia-only finals :D

MasziiOct 11, 20161 votes

You've seen enough of smurf to know he cant play Carry toplaners, so ban his poppy/gnar. As for the botlane dont give Likrit Brand and Forgiven will have a 40 cs lead @20 or so.

Ofc H2K can show some week one form, but they're lanes were still winning in weak one, something which cant be overlooked. And who knows maybe ANX vs G2 shows up ;).

Sure you can hope, but its not realistic at all.

SmileInABoxOct 10, 20161 votes

Hopefullu Likritt recovers in time ;_;

DoktorKaiserOct 11, 20161 votes

Yeah I just found out about that, I was very dissapointed :(

MazariamontiOct 10, 20161 votes

So what exactly is a high chance of seeing them in the semifinals? Like 10%?

B00B00Oct 10, 20161 votes

C9? id say 50/50 if the master of Bo5's C9 show up then SSG will have a tough series, if group dying meteos and Ezreal sneaky show up? like 1.25%

Gaxx DOct 10, 20163 votes

That "master of Bo5's" works only in NA. 50/50 would be on the best day for C9 and on the worst day for SSG. Also "if meteos shows up? like 1.25%" ftfy

FableBlazeOct 10, 20161 votes

SSG is in no way invincible. C9 has a decent chance against them.

MunchCrunchLunchOct 10, 20161 votes

NA teams choke against korean teams

HeeroTXOct 10, 20161 votes

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NA teams choke against korean teams

Apparently so do EU teams. Its really "convenient" that the one EU team to advance didn't play any Koreans in groups. (and lucky for them that they don't play any in the Quarters either)

Gaxx DOct 11, 20163 votes

How is that "lucky"? All the korean teams got a 1st place in their groups, so did H2K. They couldn't match up in the quaterfinals. If you don't know how this system works don't speak, because it seems like you're looking for some kind of consipracy.

HeeroTXOct 11, 20162 votes

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How is that "lucky"?

MunchCrunchLunch said all the NA teams "choke against korean teams". I'm saying the ONLY EU team that advanced didn't PLAY any Korean teams. I'm saying TSM or CLG could've been fine if they were in H2K's group. And also that H2K doesn't need to worry about "choking" to the Koreans until the semi's (assuming they don't choke against a WC team). I'm not implying a conspiracy to protect EU or anything of the sort. I'm simply saying UNTIL someone knocks off the Koreans, anyone shouldn't be bashing NA performance against that region, because so far, NO ONE (not even the previously "kryptonite" Flash Wolves) has got the Koreans figured out.

B00B00Oct 10, 20161 votes

i think ANX may edge H2K

Dust MarloweOct 10, 20161 votes

SSG may have played somewhat better than Rox, but Bo5's are a different animal, and I would still much rather face SSG than Rox. I mean SSG is mostly about about Crown and I don't think it's that hard to put him at a disadvantage. Teams were just dumb to give him Viktor and I don't think anyone will let him play that again.