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World's Group Predictions:

Daedalus871··4 votes·1,048 views

Group A: Koo Tigers CLG I'm expecting that the CLG and Flash Wolves game to be interesting. Really though, I only be surprised if paiN Gaming got through.

Group B: Invictus Gaming C9 Anyone could really get through. Probably going to be the most interesting group to watch.

Group C: SKTelecom 1 Edward Gaming There should be a couple of interesting games to watch.

Group D: LGD GAMING KT Rolster TSM got screwed with their group. But I think their is enough raw talent in this group to make it very interesting or very boring to watch.

18 Comments

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Wait what?

I agree with all of them except Group B. I have to assume you're a C9 fan, because they literally require a miracle just to win one game in that group.

Daedalus8711 votes

Yeah I'm a C9 fan, but I think that they have a decent chance of getting out of groups. It will be hard, but I think it will be the most interesting group to watch.

Yxgl222HaX1 votes

Not to mention c9 has a history of winning most of their games when it's least expected and losing the ones everyone expects them to win. This season at least. If no one expects them to win well that's just great for c9 no one expected 2 reverse sweeps in a row and a victory over TL after stomping TSM at the end of the split to boot. Sooo as far as i can see it they have about as good a chance as anyone. Lets not forget here that last year a BR wildcard team beat alliance the #1 EU seed. And C9 beat Najin. Soooo yeah.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

If you're going to say that TSM has a tough group, you cannot tell me that you think C9 has a decent chance. Group B is far harder than Group D.

Daedalus8711 votes

Look, it's C9 versus the 3rd China team, 1st Europe team, and 1st GPL team.

To be perfectly honest, I haven't been following the other regions closely this season, but at past World's (and international tournaments) I've notice that Europe, LMS, and NA are roughly at the same level. I have also seen that, apart from the top 1 or 2 teams, China is also on par with those regions. This leads me to believe that C9 has a decent chance of getting out of groups.

Now looking at Group D, it's Team 3 from Korea, Team 1 from China, and Team 3 from Europe. Now I'm not going to argue about Origen, other than they could pull off a random win. LGD GAMING is most likely a given thing. So that is really TSM versus KT Rolster, and KT practices against the best in the world.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

1: ahq is the 1st LMS team. The GPL is represented by the Bangkok Titans. The LMS is basically the best teams from that area, while the GPL compared to the LMS is basically the CS compared to the LCS.

2: At MSI, the most recent competition, the LMS ended the round robin 3rd, behind the LPL and LCK.

3: This split's FNC is not just an EU team. They are playing at an impossibly good level this split.

4: I'm not saying that TSM will get out of groups, I'm just saying that they have a far, far better chance than C9.

Daedalus8711 votes
  1. Thank you for correcting my mistake. I stand by my (corrected) statement.
  2. That's one competition.
  3. C9 has a history of pulling off the most unlikely wins.
TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

1: No problem :D 2: It's the most recent one. I'll put more stock in that than every other competition. 3: True, but this is almost too much for them.

Daedalus8711 votes

Ever hear of the miracle on ice? Neither have I, but it was amazing.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Actually I have. I was also watching earlier this week when Serena Williams got beaten by an old, unranked Italian.

However, what those two have in common is that they were single matches. Cloud9 has to win about 4 matches to get to the quarterfinals.

Daedalus8711 votes

4 games isn't all that much.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

It's a lot when you only get 6.

TheSequelsRBad1 votes

You predicted FNC not to make it out of groups. I think you should be ready for a significant amount of downvotes. I am a C9 fan tho, I like to see faith. but I am just giving you fair warning.

DestructoDave1 votes

Personally, outside of the top top teams, I think most of the field is even and people just overrate based on association. Origen is ranked high simply because Fnatic is in their region. NA is ranked low becuase they dont have a Fnatic this year. Korean and China teams are ranked similar to Origen just because they have a very strong team in their region.

So, honestly, outside of the top teams advancing, I personally think this year, its anyone's game. I honestly dont see this amazing clean godlike play out of the 2nd/3rd teams. I see it in the top teams; but on down the pole, there are mistakes, and there are reasons they are 2nd/3rd teams. And for that reason, and the fact that I feel the competition is actually closer and getting closer each year, I wont be surprised if a korean or chinese team doesnt make it out of groups, because even in the past, when I feel Asian teams were much farther ahead in skill level, they still dropped games and had close series to Western teams.

I think once you get past Fnatic, Skt, LGD, there are going to be a lot of close games and upsets this year. People acting like the 3rd place Korean team is just gonna plow over everyone but LGD and SKT is honestly pretty comical, especially if you look at them objectively. They make mistakes, they dont play anywhere NEAR the level of Skt, and are ripe for dropping games to equal western teams, which i feel there are many.

Daedalus8711 votes

I agree with you.

Outside of the top (and bottom, aka wildcard) teams their probably isn't much difference.

Lstrike1 votes

My predictions:

Group A: CLG (6-1) wins tiebreaker against Koo Koo (5-2) Pain Gaming (2-4) Flashwolves (0-6)

Clg either wins this 6-0 or shares a game with Koo and wins the tiebreaker.

Group B: Fnatic (6-0) Invictus Gaming (4-2) AHQ (2-4) C9 (0-6)

C9 might be able to take a game off AHQ but thats it.. Sorry NA.

Group C: SKT (6-0/6-1) EDG (4-2/5-2) H2k (2-4) BKT (0-6)

Pretty easy to predict

Group D: LGD (6-0) KT (4-3/3-4) Origen (4-3/3-4) TSM (0-6)

I am with Monte with this one.. TSM is not gonna win a single game in this group. Origen might be able to take down KT if they survive KT's early game. But favorites are LGD/KT.

MelbaDream1 votes

As I said in another thread : Well. Group A : I think KOO Tigers and CLG are gonna make it out of this one. I don't really think KOO Tigers would have been the favorites if they had gotten a top European or LMS team, or a higher or even ranked China team (let's say FNC, AHQ, LGD or EDG) but in this group, they should do it pretty easily. I believe that, even with a sub as jungle, and even with the tower level (compared to other regions like LMS or EU) NA has shown since the MSI, the top NA team can beat both Flash Wolves and paiN without much problem. In the best case, they will take a game out of KOO, in the worst they'll drop one or two games to Flash Wolves and/or paiN. And for the last two, I would bet on Flash Wolves, but paiN (and WildCards team to an extend) may surprise us. Tl dr : KOO Tigers (6-0/6-1) QUALIFIED CLG (5-2/4-2/4-3) QUALIFIED Flash Wolves (3-4/2-4/1-5) paiN gaming (1-5/0-6)

Group B : Very interesting group in my opinion. The result will depend on whether or not Fntic will be good enough to beat both AHQ and IG. Fntic is a strong team, stronger that it was at the MSI, so I believe they will beat AHQ (but maybe only in one game) and they have their chances against IG (I believe that EU and LMS have stepped up, so their top teams can beat the third China seed). I also believe that AHQ can beat IG. And my heart will always be for C9, thought there have the lowest chances to make it out of this group (T_T), but everyone knows that they love surprising everyone, so... This is the group of every possibility, in which everything is possible. And this will be close. (Unless Fntic or AHQ has really stepped up, or the China region is in fact so ahead that LMS and EU don't stand a chance, even with their first seed.) Tl dr : Fntic (5-2) QUALIFIED AHQ (4-3) QUALIFIED IG (3-3) C9 (1-5) (T_T) But I'll know better after the first games, everything is possible here.

Group C : I hear everyone saying 'Group D stands for Group Death' but... If it does, then Group C stands for Group Crueler than death. For me, SKT T1 and EDG (thought they came as second seed) are the favorites of this tournament, the two that will probably clash in the finals (even thought they aren't unbeatable, as SKT T1 dropped games to the Fntic squad and EDG lost their first seed to LGD). And they are in the same group. Apart from the Fnctic-with-Rekkles, LGD, maybe the other seeds from Korea or a stepped up AHQ, nobody is near their level. So I'll just say : RIP H2k and BT. In the mightiest scenario ever, H2k would win two games against BT, one against of those titans, and the same titan would drop two games to the other, making it a tie break between H2k and the titan, but... I don't see H2k winning it. And sorry for BT, but I think H2k is better. Tl dr : SKT T1 (6-0/5-1/4-2) QUALIFIED EDG (6-0/5-1/4-2) QUALIFIED H2k (2-4) BT (0-6)

Group D : LGD is the clear favorite here, and in the worst case they will drop one game, or two, no more. KT Rolster should be the second one making out of this group, unless EU (and maybe even NA) has stepped up to the point third seed EU (thought I would say Origen in the second best team in Europe) can match third seed Korea. Honestly, TSM is not a bad team, but they falled a bot lately, and... Well in this group I don't see them winning more than one game, and if they do, it will be from OG or KT. So I believe LGD will make it out with KT if Origen can't do it, or it will be really close between KT and OG. Tl dr : LGD (6-0/5-1) QUALIFIED KT Rolster (4-2/4-3/3-4) ??? OG (3-4/4-3/2-4) ??? TSM (1-5/0-6)

Tl dr : Group A should be CLG and KOO Tigers, unless Flash Wolves can make an upset. Group B is the group of every possibility, where everything is possible. Group C stands for crueler than death, SKT and EDG will take it, H2k's chances are close to zero. Group D is the one of LGD and KT, unless TSM are back to their old good days and Origen step up.

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