Oh Hai...

Mat7itan·Jul 26, 2015·5 votes·1,184 views

"They just fucking lost." - C9 Hai, 2015

17 Comments

Yxgl222HaXJul 26, 20152 votes

Lol tsm has been shit lately i mean, lets not forget that cloud 9 just lost to TDK yesterday, one of the worst teams in the lcs, with a team comp that was strong aginst them no less. And then tsm goes and losses to a c9 that lost to tdk with a counter comp. FAIL WHALE COMING THROUGH

skyfall619Jul 26, 20155 votes

Tdk is far from the worst. They went the majority of the split playing with subs so they never had the chance to grow with the team till it was too late. Ninja and emperor are one of the best in na without a doubt I hope they make it back from challenger.

TurquoiseYoshiJul 26, 20151 votes

They just need Seraph on a carry top laner. Or a non-meta top laner. Or an assassin.

LeeDarkJul 27, 20151 votes

Or they can realize the same thing CLG did--Seraph is dead weight in the pro scene. He's nothing more than a solo queue hero.

TurquoiseYoshiJul 27, 20151 votes

He can play well in the pro scene, but they need to have him on his champs, not the meta's champs.

LeeDarkJul 27, 20151 votes

That's a load of crap. His champs don't work in this environment, just like they didn't work with CLG's playstyle. To go off-meta, you have to know what you are doing. You can't just take any champ and say, "Well, he's good at it, so obviously it would work." That's bullshit. They have to be team players who consider what is strongest overall. Seraph would be no good to TDK winning his lane on "his" champ but being useless the rest of the game because his pick doesn't fit.

He's a solo queue hero. That's all he'll ever be.

TurquoiseYoshiJul 27, 20151 votes

He needs to be able to play a meta pick, but he cannot be constrained by them. Kinda like Impact. Is that a better explanation?

High5Jul 26, 20151 votes

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Tdk is far from the worst. They went the majority of the split playing with subs so they never had the chance to grow with the team till it was too late. Ninja and emperor are one of the best in na without a doubt I hope they make it back from challenger.

Auto relegation means you're the worst. They couldn't get their players to the US. It was one of the most awful teams I've ever seen play lcs.

skyfall619Jul 26, 20151 votes

Playing 7 weeks out 9 with a team full of subs. They had no control over them getting to usa, the usa didn't approve their visa so they was fucked till approved. They have shown they can beat top team and did beat top teams with there real roster. They got delt a bad hand from start.

If they had their full roster from the start I'm certain they would be top 3 based of recent performance. They should be able to breeze through challenger.