Riot should have put all 3 korean teams in the same side of the bracket along with EDG
Right now, a lot less people are caring about the championship. This is a real problem for viewership.
Right now, a lot less people are caring about the championship. This is a real problem for viewership.
It's almost like the point of the world championships is to figure out which team in the world is the best, regardless of region.
It's almost like the point of the world championships is to figure out which team in the world is the best, regardless of region.
well they chose that route instead doing it for viewership, so now the WC viewership is going to be... probably halved.
Do you have any kind of backup for those numbers? The Super Bowl starts with twice as many teams, each of which is much more geographically specific than any LoL team, and it doesn't stop 70% of the US from watching it each year. I guess it's possible that some people stop watching Worlds once teams from their region lose, but that doesn't seem likely, and it's certainly not a big enough group that they would just cut out the best regions in the world out just to give other regions a better chance of winning. That's just not how sports works.
Do you have any kind of backup for those numbers? The Super Bowl starts with twice as many teams, each of which is much more geographically specific than any LoL team, and it doesn't stop 70% of the US from watching it each year. I guess it's possible that some people stop watching Worlds once teams from their region lose, but that doesn't seem likely, and it's certainly not a big enough group that they would just cut out the best regions in the world out just to give other regions a better chance of winning. That's just not how sports works.
for backup? just ask people??? I dont need to do a case study to see that NA, EU, and CHINA are not going to care about it as much. Why was there less hype around worlds this year?? its because korea won the last 2. Doesn't take rocket science to know this... Seriously, just ask your friends. Even at the start of the event, People in my league club were not really that into it since they figured Korea was going to win anyways. Were still having a viewing party, but nobody really cares anymore. And then theres the fact that this is the first time only 1 region has been in the finals...
Even last year, I didn't bother watching the finals between the Korean team and EDG, and few people I know did. But then, they had a lot of chinese viewers to see EDG. Now they won't. Granted it's the esports board, so people on this board probably care about it, but to say you think its going to not drastically effect viewership to have both teams that are in the finals to be from 1 small country is denying reality.
Come to think of it, I do have a source, its called common sense. Theres going to be even less hype around next years worlds after Korea winning 3 in a row. This is a disaster for viewership and Riot knows it.
So, no sources then? All you have is anecdotal evidence, nothing to suggest that any kind of massive drop is actually in effect. And even if there is one, what do you think Riot should do about it? Partitioning what are clearly the best teams in the world into their own separate series really undermines the point of the WORLD championship.
Do you have any kind of backup for those numbers? The Super Bowl starts with twice as many teams, each of which is much more geographically specific than any LoL team, and it doesn't stop 70% of the US from watching it each year. I guess it's possible that some people stop watching Worlds once teams from their region lose, but that doesn't seem likely, and it's certainly not a big enough group that they would just cut out the best regions in the world out just to give other regions a better chance of winning. That's just not how sports works.
Group stages was pulling over 650K+ on twitch.
Despite what you may thing, a huge amount of the audience are western viewers. When their teams are gone, the possibility of them coming back is lowered. See, people want to see teams that represent them, or teams they like. We know NA/EU lcs pulls bigger numbers than LCK. It doesn't take a course in econometric to understand that those viewers might not tune in if their teams are all gone.
FNC vs Koo pulled in huge numbers, so did SKT vs OG. Yet, Koo vs KT, didn't. It's really not rocket science. I expect that the finals will have bigger numbers but without a doubt, it would have been able to pull in more if it was western team in there. With that said, I don't think this is a problem. NA and EU need to pick up their game. Koreans aren't always better, look at DOTA and CS.
Yes, because only twitch was streaming it live.
In Korea, there's this actual TV channel called OGN that broadcast live both on TV and on internet.
If you want to talk about two Korean teams in the finals making it less appealing, sure, true.
But the biggest loss wasn't both LCK representatives making it to the finals, nor both EU and NA LCS being eliminated, it was a debacle called LPL that hurt the numbers the most.
And you are definitely correct in saying NA and EU need to pick up their game.
Okay, so that's NA/EU's problem, not Riot's. Regardless of the impact that it has (and there does seem to be one, thank you for citing sources), it's an inevitable reality of a world championship that some people are going to do better than others.
Because the only viewers that matter are from NA and EU, amirite?
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3qyzlh/15m_concurrent_viewers_in_the_west/
Here is your evidence since common sense isn't enough. Only 1.5 million viewers in the west. The health of the league viewership affects the health of the game. You can continue to deny stuff like this cause' no evidence, but its really obvious if you just think about it. Also, even if they put the 3 korean teams and EDG in the same side of the bracket it wouldn't have changed who won.