Leave Dyrus Alone!

Chromatic Eagle·May 9, 2015·17 votes·3,091 views

He just wants to play League of Legends.

35 Comments

Evil JesterMay 9, 201512 votes

I felt so bad for him. No one every came to help him and they just fed off him.

Earl EulrichMay 9, 201510 votes

that´s just the problem...TSM constantly leaves him alone.

AlexsureshotMay 9, 20159 votes

Dyrus is fine. Anyone else miss Theoddone. I think i just made it clear about what i am getting at.

JazzPoliceMay 9, 20154 votes

^ This. Theoddone did so well with Bjerg. Sure Bjerg was the one that would carry hard, but Theoddone was the one that would make him able to. I have seen Santorin do well but, but not nearly as well as Theoddone. If he decides to either feed Bjerg or countergank for Dyrus, he would be a lot better off. For whatever reason his ganks to bottom lane have not been working out.

NuSix3May 9, 20154 votes

Man, why are people so rough on these kids. Santorin is really fucking good. Nothing against TheOddOne but he chose to step down, nobody kicked him out. The whole team played terrible.

I think it's time they stop hiring kids as coaches tbh. There needs to be an end all say all authority on the team. It's not even anything against LocoDoco, but if that guy told me to do something I didn't want to do I'd have no issue arguing with him. That's the problem.

High5May 9, 20155 votes

Dyrus gave up or was pushing too hard to make a point. If you pushed that hard in solo, you'd get ganked for being a noob too.

Dyrus does a lot of whining, has no patience and can't carry top. The other teams bannned him out and picked on him because he's a weak link in standard lanes. TSM was exposed baddly and mostly Dyrus's fault for feeding under 5 mins every game.

NuSix3May 9, 20151 votes

Comparing LCS to solo queue is like comparing apples and oranges. The plan may have been for Dyrus to push out to attract jungle attention so plays can be made elsewhere.

Then again, you could be completely right. I just think people are way too hard on the e-sports players. Most professional athletes take tons of shit from the media and fans, but at least they are getting paid for it. I doubt anyone in the LCS is going to have enough money to retire as soon as their league career is down.

Hell WeekMay 9, 20151 votes

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Comparing LCS to solo queue is like comparing apples and oranges. The plan may have been for Dyrus to push out to attract jungle attention so plays can be made elsewhere.

Then again, you could be completely right. I just think people are way too hard on the e-sports players. Most professional athletes take tons of shit from the media and fans, but at least they are getting paid for it. I doubt anyone in the LCS is going to have enough money to retire as soon as their league career is down.

" comparing LCS to solo queque is like comparing apples and oranges. " - NuSix3

You made my day bro, too funny!

LeeDarkMay 9, 20157 votes

TSM's whole plan is to just leave Dyrus to himself, because even when he gets camped, he still finds ways to get farm and contribute later. The problem at MSI is the same problem TSM has, hell, EVERY NA TEAM HAS, IN EVERY INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT.

They get there and immediately STOP playing their own game. They try desperately to adapt to the meta of other regions, and inevitably fail at it because they aren't practiced in it.

Truly PridefulMay 10, 20151 votes

This is exactly what kills me about them. They drop everything they excel at to play like the koreans or whoever. Just play your game guys, Fnatic did it and almost knocked out SKT.

Sinister AnubisMay 9, 20159 votes

Dyrus is TSM mascot they can't get rid of him

lDontLiftIcarryMay 9, 20152 votes

LOL did he get camped again? They always camp him, he's come a long way in terms of mechanics for top laning imo. He has some pretty good carry games and solid csing for the most part.

also this thread is just a bunch of retards comparing pro scene to ranked scene. Apples to oranges.

Legacy of RaMay 9, 20152 votes

Dyrus and TSM's close-minded gameplay (Feed Bjerg, he'll carry us-- even though he's clearly mediocre on the international stage) is holding TSM back. This was just a glimpse of what is awaiting TSM, and all of their mindless, brainwashed fans, at Worlds this year. Yes, I'm a TSM fan, but I'm honest about their issues and I would like to see them transcend where they currently are. Being able to crush NA doesn't mean anything, considering it's one of the worst regions there is.

They lost every game in the same exact manner and didn't adapt once. Every team camped Dyrus because he has zero map awareness, zero patience, and easy prey (wasn't he almost every first blood?). Santorin practically gift-wrapped Dyrus with all of that neglect to top lane, and for what? It wasn't like he made plays in any of the other lanes. He just sat in his jungle being irrelevant, and giving up kills when he got caught out by roams.

With Dyrus in a nice 0/3 - 0/5 deficit before the game reached ten minutes (before five minutes, in most situations), the laning phase was practically over for him (solo kills for days, lol), which meant the enemy jungler was free to harass Bjerg and keep him under control. After one or two kills on him, whether they were ganks or solo kills, all of that pressure just snowballed down the map and crushed Lustboy and Wildturtle. It was literally an avalanche, falling from the top of the map to the bottom, and then sweeping up toward the Nexus and closing the game.

TSM is the best team in NA by a fucking long shot, and this tournament showed how far behind they-- and we, as a region --are behind the rest of the world. It's sad, but true. If they plan on becoming real competitors, they're going to need to make some very serious decisions in the next few months, and even in this off season.

TakahashiiMay 9, 20151 votes

Bjor focus the problem as pointed out by sheepy. Santorin and Bjor just farming as Dyrus takes it with no lube again! Might as well dump all 3. Bot lane the only thing savable on this team.

Chromatic EagleMay 9, 20152 votes

Well Lustboy didn't do much roaming on a champion designed for it.

Buttigieg 2020May 9, 20158 votes

Drop bjerg? How stoned are you? Arguably the best mid laner in the world.

hi hav a gud dayMay 9, 20152 votes

at farming cs, which really as cho or ziggs anyone can do

Buttigieg 2020May 9, 20156 votes

Bjerg is one of the only lcs players who consistently solo-kills his opponents. I have seen him get lvl 4 first blood as ziggs vs a Leblanc as a solo kill. He also has one of the highest CS per 10 out of any lcs player while having excellent decision making. He is faker in terms of skill.

blueberrypancakeMay 9, 20158 votes

memories of IEM san jose

LankPantsMay 9, 20153 votes

Drop bjerg? How stoned are you? Arguably the best mid laner in the world.

This is just a laughable point, sure he's one of the best midlaners in NA (I personally believe that XWX is better), but NA has the worst midlaners of any major region.

His best competition comes from XiaoWeiXiao and Keane, They're the only other two midlaners who played in NA who are even worth mentioning.

If he was still playing in EU he'd be a mid tier midlaner, around the level of Fox and Betsy. He'd be frequently getting crushed by top tier mids like Febiven and Ryu, he'd probably also lose lane to people like Froggen and POE.

There's also Eastern mid laners. How well do you thing Bjerg compares to people like Faker or Kur0?

LeeDarkMay 9, 20152 votes

lol, EU is the laughable region. Fnatic pulled out a bit of luck by showing some surprises, but they'll get dumped on by SKT in semis. EU ranks last of the major regions in the power rankings consistently, and there is a reason for that. Mid laners and junglers are the teams' anchors, and EU just doesn't have anyone that REALLY shines there.

LankPantsMay 9, 20152 votes

NA just suck, stay salty NA fanboy :).

LeeDarkMay 9, 20152 votes

Talk all you want, power rankings don't lie, bitch.

LankPantsMay 9, 20152 votes

Talk all you want, power rankings don't lie, bitch.

Yes they do. NA was the 3rd ranked region in terms of power rankings going into this tourney, they came out in 5th place, being beat by both the lower ranked EU and Taiwan regions.

In addition Taiwan was ranked around 5th or 6th going into the S2 world championships, and I'm fairly sure we know how that went.

Ale non è maleMay 9, 20155 votes

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lol, EU is the laughable region.

NA has lost every season to EU to Worlds except last one where the competitivty in EU was at an all-time low point and there wasn't a consistent Eu team out there at Worlds (SoAZ went from one of the best mechanical top laners in S3 to one of the worst in EU in S4 because he isn't a top player when meta does not facoured tankish champs and drag Fnatic down alone, Alliance won EU by sheer talent in S4 but was always an incostant team till the point they lost to KaBum at Worlds and eliminate themselves at Worlds where they could have easily advanced in an eventual tiebreaker vs Najin and C9 and they have showed it again this season with their new name , and SK was 0-3 to start S4 Worlds with a substitue jungler with no LCS experience called at last second - and they kicked TSM ass when Sven was available - )

This season competitivity in Europe has gone up a lot as Fnc get a new and kinda good team, UoL entered in LCS and finished 2nd overall and losing in game 5 of a Bo5 vs FNC (and even before playing in LCS they were battling at the same level with world class team at IEM), SK got a new and improved mid and ADC that was MVP of the Eu Spring Split (I don't understand why they wanted CadnyPanda back as starter though...), H2K improved at support and jungle and while losing Febiven they didn't lose much at mid by getting Ryu Next split competition will be even higher as there are still the old Alliance now called Elements that happened to have a bad start Spring Split but after they finally replaced Wickd (which has a very limited pool on champ on which he is top tier while on other is just bad) with kev1n improved and finished the split strong and there will be the new xPeke and SoAZ team joining LCS(in a meta where he is a top player)

LankPantsMay 9, 20151 votes

(I don't understand why they wanted CadnyPanda back as starter though...)

They didn't. If you read between the lines a little it's easy to see that Forg1ven wasn't happy bout how the team was going and left them.

Ale non è maleMay 9, 20151 votes

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They didn't. If you read between the lines a little it's easy to see that Forg1ven wasn't happy bout how the team was going and left them.

Unless the clashes were with Sven or Fox, they could have kept all 3 and kicked eventually anyone other these 3 didn't want including coaches/managerial staff. Once you have a strong core, you should just keep it and change and improve around following what UoL did. Sk as roganzation ranked keep Forg1ven below other things, which is reallyodd

And, by the way, if they really wanted to get rid of Forg1ven and get another ADC, why CandyPanda? i know he is familiar with the organization, but he is a below average ADC in EU LCS alone, don't mind at World level. he could have rejoined as clear stop-gap filler at ADC while they were searching for a new starter ADC, not join in as a probablye future starter

PierMay 10, 20151 votes

So dumped... Take your salt back, you'll need it.

High5May 9, 20151 votes

TSM could prob beat a world class team 4v5.

LankPantsMay 9, 20152 votes

They just lost to 4 world class teams in 5v5s.

LeeDarkMay 9, 20151 votes

No, they lost to 3 world class teams and a Junior Varsity EU team that got lucky.

LankPantsMay 9, 20151 votes

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that TSM get dumpstered every time they go up against an EU team.

Like at worlds last year where SK trashed the hell out of them when they actually played them with their full roster.

Or at IEM San Jose where they lost 2-0 to UOL, not even a particularly strong EU team.

And obviously EU's still a weak region, it's not like Fnatic got to the semis while TSM couldn't even put up a fight against any of the other major regions.

Also why does being a junior team automatically make them 'lucky' when they down a major team? M5, C9, SKT and TPA were all junior teams who downed major teams at one point and I think it's become obvious that none of them were purely because of luck.

PierMay 10, 20151 votes

Yeah, so lucky that they beat SKT twice in semis... Damn they should play lottery.

0110100001101001May 9, 20151 votes

https://twitter.com/LoLDyrus/status/596801579358916608

x No HeartMay 10, 20151 votes

Why hasn't TSM upgraded from Turtle? You're putting resources in a carry that can't fight for them. No point of starving Dyrus if your AD carry is a subpar laner and wildly volatile teamfighter. Either he goes too fucking hard and dies or he plays too passive. He's gotten better at positioning in fights recently, but he's still a bottom three laner for NA, which is where he needs to be strong so Dyrus' deaths aren't in vain.