They really are mortals :)

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Oh, didn't know about movement speed gain on Rek'Sai. Then again, Gragas still isn't that far behind, and I never claimed that Gragas is more mobile than Rek'Sai. You can't really beat Rek'Sai with her ultimate which I mentioned as well.

Graves' dash cooldown at lowest (before cooldown reduction) is at 14 seconds. Assuming that you use it to cross walls to get to a jungle camp (so you lose that 1 extra bullet), you will get 4 second cooldown reduction once you start the camp, and you have to spend those bullets before you get cooldown reduction. Gragas' dash cooldown is 12 seconds, and if he hits anything with it, it's reduced by 9 seconds. It's not much, but it's faster by 1 second. You could argue that Graves' is faster, but I'd argue that Gragas' has an AoE stun on it. I did look it up and Graves has slightly higher base MS, so I'd say both of them have overall the same mobility.

The problem with Gragas mobility compared to the other jungle power picks, imho, is that his mobility is really conditional. The other guys have guaranteed boosts or have more reliable CD reduction systems If you miss your Body Slam or are forced to use the dash to escape, you are there as a sitting duck and forced to passively wait your ability to get off CD without able to do anything, while Graves dash is far more versatile and give you the guaranteed tool to reduce his CD (the shell reload) Gragas has a lot of tools that make him a top tier jungle pick, but those strengths are gated by having basically the entire kit except W as kinda of hit or miss abilities, and his mobility doesn't represent an exception His viablity as pick has always been tied on his versatility and in how much reward you could get for the risks you take with his hit or miss ability, but his mobility ALONE is not on par with the actual top pick tier jungler, unless you are perfect with him - and being his ability hit or miss you can't be perfectly hitting your skills vs equal level competition -

Double doesn't ALWAYS perform mechanically well. You can see it VERY CLEARLY that when he's tilting, he positions himself HORRIBLY and throws A LOT of games for CLG. I can confidently say that he's part of TSM problems currently and part of the reason why CLG is able to play consistently this season (aside from that TSM game where for some reason they pick weird champions that they never play). If you're not consistent, regardless of high your skill ceiling is, then you can't be called a top player, especially when your inconsistency cost your team many games and titles.

Positioning is part mechanichs, parl decision making. Double problem with positioning is his decision making and shotcaling with the team, because his mispositioning is far too evident to be just a matter of miscalculating distances or having a misclick, and wouldn't otherwise explain why instead he can generally win the 2 vs 2 lane Double is not inconsistent...heck, even his misteakes are pretty much predictable. He is not a guy that one day he play like a flawless god and the next day like utter trash not being able even to CS properly Double problem is that he restrain his performance because he makes too much mistakes that could be avoidable if he could soften his ego and be willing to follow other people lead at time, like he did in the 2015 Summer and the honeymoon phase of that CLG roster that ended at Worlds

Unlike Doublelift, at least Altec is consistent. When he was in Gravity, he always puts up high numbers in KDA and in damage dealt. In NRG, he's actually performing okay, but NRG doesn't need consistent ADC, they need a playmaker because GBM and Impact aren't playmakers (although Impact sometimes can do it). With only consistent players in solo lanes, it's hard for a safe ADC to perform, that's why Altec isn't doing so hot. Another reason why I only call Altec "potentially top ADC" and not an actual top ADC from NA is because he seems to have confidence issue. He had problems in every team he has joined so far. Don't know the story about him in NRG, though.

I don't even see Stixxay as top ADC. Maybe he has potential, but I still haven't seen it. There are times when he was the MVP of the game, but more times when he only performed meh. He is slightly more consistent now, though, but apparently his consistency in mechanics only led him to playing Ezreal and be disturbance to the enemy team as Darshan split pushes. Stixxay is still new, though, so he might improve and be an actual top ADC from NA region.

Altec is consistently average on his own, the brightest points of Gravity were when keane was shining in his surprise pocket pick and his small comfort champ pool was very strong in meta, and Hauntzer was emerging as top tier Na top laner (in the last season really weak context of NA LCS top laners pool). The Gravity botlane was anything but spectacular, and if anything Bunny was getting the deserved credit for doing an overall good shotcallig work (with guys like hauntzer helping, unlike what happens in C9 when he suffers cause he is alone in shotcalling) Last season he was above average because the difference between the top 5 ADC and the rest of NA ADC was huge...the best of the rest were Core JJ which is not top tier and had communication issues on top of that, and Apollo who is frankly quite bad, and this says a lot (I'm not counting Emperor cause TDk visa situation, obviously). This season he is just really below average, and there is not much more to say...of course, he is not helped by having one of the worst jungle/support around, but he is just showing that he is consistently below average in the actual NA ADC scene because NA ADc scene got upgraded a ton

Stixxay is not the flashy kind of player, he is more the passive kind of ADC. He farms, play safe, and when see the opening to deal damage he does it and clean up The best scenario is that he turn out be a NA Rekkles, the worst case scenario he stays where he actually is which is yet the status of an average/slightly above average competent Western ADC...I think he will end up in a middle ground between these scenarios, which still would be a pretty good ADC that will not be a liability at international level, even though he would unlikely win the 1 vs 1 against the enemy ADC

Thats not true at all. Quite a few of of the Immortals games they play more comfort picks than what is in the meta. I mean, Huni played fucking Ekko top last week. Adrian could easily play something like Braum or Alistar, but hes more comfortable with Janna/Soraka every game. Pobelter is playing Lux everygame who isnt necessarily bad, but its not exactly LCS Corki tier.