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C9 Hype for Summer Split

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Miror B3 votes

Depending on how the rosters finalize c9 could quite literally "see" 9...th place.

Mazariamonti3 votes

I think it's either going to be a tremendous success or a catastrophic failure. Their head coach has to work through a translator and I'm not even sure if he's going to be living in the U.S. The new players are all mechanical improvements over the old roster, but from what I've seen they don't seem to mesh together at all and have no clear leader on the team.

If they figure it out they could be similar to Immortals or TSM, if not, we might be looking at Dignitas levels of embarrassment.

Maszii1 votes

Wait what Rush > Meteos in mechanics. Gonna be interesting, but i can easily see this fail yes.

Mazariamonti1 votes

You're right, my mistake. But I stand by the rest of my points.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

" have no clear leader on the team " - MAZARIAMONTI My thoughts exactly. Who will be the shot caller on the team ? Can't be Rush Can't really have an adc be the shot caller Jensen is too new and and fresh into the LCS. It would have to be Meteos but I don't see him being a good shot caller tbh.
Meteos being able to shot call for incoming ganks but not for objectives in the right order.

Miror B1 votes

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" have no clear leader on the team " - MAZARIAMONTI My thoughts exactly. Who will be the shot caller on the team ? Can't be Rush Can't really have an adc be the shot caller Jensen is too new and and fresh into the LCS. It would have to be Meteos but I don't see him being a good shot caller tbh.
Meteos being able to shot call for incoming ganks but not for objectives in the right order.

I'm pretty sure it's gonna be bunny, as what their "original plans" were before they got the challenger team. I also entirely expect meteos to be replaced at some point in the season, as unless the JG meta shifts towards tanks then rush is just generally better than him.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Bunny shot caller ???? Have you seen any bunny games shot calling ? I personally don't see bunny being a good shot caller. He seems like a GO with the Tide type of player a little to hanged back you know kinda Groovy type 70's ish if you catch my drift mate !

Miror B1 votes

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Bunny shot caller ???? Have you seen any bunny games shot calling ? I personally don't see bunny being a good shot caller. He seems like a GO with the Tide type of player a little to hanged back you know kinda Groovy type 70's ish if you catch my drift mate !

Not saying it's gonna work well (if their intended roster is impact-meteos-jensen-sneaky-bunny then they'll have zero chance of beating the likes of current NRG/tsm/clg/tl). Looking at their roster though, and I dare you to make a case of any of the other ones being the shotcaller as impact's too new to the system, meteos is somewhat of an untested commodity with his last lcs game coming almost a year ago, and sneaky/jensen being unable to lest the team wants to fall into the whole "fnatic early spring split" trap.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Alright nice point I can see Bunny being a (small) shot caller. I see maybe all 5 being equal shot callers as it is a team game and they can say in interviews they don't have 1 shot caller out of respect for Hai and not putting the blame of bad games on 1 player, when fans get upset if C9 does bad so the fans don't lash out on that 1 player. Nice post man

KetiaX1 votes

Yes we have, Gravity Gaming during Season 5 LCS Summer regular season. The shotcalling was quite decent at that time. Nowhere near best of the best obviously, but it's a good base to work on, and they've worked on it for the entire Spring season. Time will tell if it's going to be good or not.

Instead of shotcalling, I'm more worried about all these players being conservative players. Back in Spring they were playing aggressively because they had Rush who made Jensen play aggressive, and Hai who essentially made the entire team play aggressive. Meteos is a very conservative, farm-oriented jungler, so he won't be able to give too much lead to Jensen for him to play actively, while losing Hai means Sneaky won't be playing aggressive either. I'd prefer Rush staying as their jungler.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Yeah Meteos has stated before that he doesn't like telling people when he wants to gank but instead he would rather hear it from the laners themselves so that he doesn't feel like he is telling them what to do. The problem with that is Sneaky doesn't talk or communicates with the team and that needs to be addressed. Second is Meteos needs to be the leader for the team he is one of the most experienced among them.
I would rather take Meteos than Rush personally Rush's playstyle is too aggressive and it showed during the playoffs in spring.

TheSequelsRBad2 votes

I am just excited about meteos final coming back.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Lets not forget that when C9 was doing bad in a interview before Worlds 2016 Sneaky talked about how he felt with C9 doing bad he wanted to be on a different team. I see C9 with Meteos and Sneaky really BFF for years, being their final rodeo together and having more fun this next split before one or both leaving the team.

TallyZrg2 votes

Oh my...

So much hype is rising within me! Finally can watch my favorite support player again :D

dakm1022 votes

I personally am LOVING this new roster in how they could shape up to be and also their attitude at the moment. They all recognize what their flaws are and they are all ready to learn a ton. for those who haven't I would suggest you watch the new episode of genesis (which is like legends for all you tsm fans out there) and see what it is like already. its awesome to see and I cant wait for summer.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Yeah the team looks good on paper but I don't see Cloud 9 doing well for next split.
OVERALL 8-10 7th place

IMPACT is a great top laner but since joining NA he has been getting worse as the splits have gone bye, not to mention that his English isn't 100% ( BUT I LIKE THE EFFORT FROM A FOREIGN PLAYER TO TRY TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE). So the communication won't be there.

METEOS has developed a team first attitude that he didn't have before, but is he going to a leader when or if C9 are in a slump ?

JENSEN I said this before but I'm just not sold on this guy he always seems to get caught out in lane and dies randomly. He also has a history of being toxic.

SNEAKY might just be the most consistent player for C9 for the past years but I have seen him " tilt " hard in solo Q games as of late and with Meteos back I see them doing some stupid stuff to try to get C9 back into the game or to help the enemy pull even further ahead instead.

BUNNY ............ He is good but ...... Hes been in the lcs scene for like 2 years and have only played like 30 games out of total of maybe 100ish, and its for a reason.

OVERALL C9 Great team to watch if you like bloodbaths. I see around 26 kills per game total for enemy and C9 overall. Also who will be the shot caller METEOS ?

B00B001 votes

the reason for that game tally for bunny is because he has always been second string, now I'm not saying he's the best player world or anything but i think he is more than capable (not sure on shot calling though) but the example here can just be pointed to stixxay, always second string and once given a chance, kaboom, he explodes.

same with wild turtle, while he was in the 1st team 100% he never got attention cos that greedy ass midland needed all the food, he was always overlooked them boom, he explodes too once given an extended chance.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Stop making sense and being reasonable XD. Yeah I want to give Bunny a chance but lets say they start off bad maybe 2-6 are they going to call in Hai or import a Korean player or other things, when the loses keep adding up the blame game will come in factor.

Nice points about Wildturtle I HATED that Bjergsen got all the resources on TSM. Top never ganked for and left to die 24/7 in every game, when the meta was Top lane shifted but TSM was still on the Mid lane for 5 years now. Looper-Smeb-Huni-MaRin was on dominant teams and had Great performances because they meta shifted for them and their team was smart enough to secure them vision and ganks but TSM only lives in the past.

Wildturtle had 1 ONE bad split reasons??? 1. their jungler santorin never ganks NEVER the dude had the lowest ganking pressure among the junglers for NA and EU. 2. Mid got all the focus and farm, again dwelling on the past and just focus on Bjergsen. 3. It was also the teams fault in not doing anything " oh no WIldturtle is caught out in a 1v2 hmm better run away and not help " says the 4-0 BJergsen who is playing Leblanc.

Back to Bunny you convinced me to give Bunny a chance but don't say I didn't warn you when the grapes turn sour Thanks for the comment Have a Good One !

B00B001 votes

respect man, an NA guy who also speaks sense and see's TSM for what they did and how they played, seriously said this type of thing so many times to only be shouted at hi fives my brother from another mother

and yeh i have reservations about bunny but i love C9 and sneaky/jenson are my faves over in NA (sneaky is awesome) so i hope they do well, i don't know much about meteos right now tbh i know his past but not his ''right now'' form haven seen streams or anything.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Indeed same to you. I look it at like this most teams that are dominant SKT- Royal etc sub out their star players for example Faker subbed out for Easyhoon now we all know Faker is better between himself and Easy but their Coach for SKT knew that the team wasn't called Team Faker NO it was called SKT, by subbing out Faker The coach could see who could be the 2nd carry next to Faker 2015 it was MaRin. So when they brought back Faker they split most of the resources to Faker and MaRin instead of doing it NA style and giving it all to 1 player and hoping they can carry. ( TSM sub out Wildturtle for Keith and 1 ONE game later brought him back ????? OK what did that do putting him in Timeout or something??? Cause it still didn't change the way that TSM worked, they still only focused on Bjergsen ) so that was pointless and made no sense.

Spoilers it didn't work nor has it ever.

2013 Doublelift CLG was given all the gold and cs for his team and they made it 4th-5th-6th place for 5 splits in a row regular and playoffs total.

2014 Bjergsen TSM same thing early 2014 it wasn't really ALL the cs but it was mainly the vision that was the factor for them that is why they brought in Lustboy because they needed a support and Someone to do the HARDWORK known as Vision cause Bjergsen sure as hell wouldn't do it.

2015 was the turning point was BJergsen was given all the farm in the games where he played Zed during the 2015 spring and summer split tsm would send Bjersen to clean up waves of farm when he had close to 300 cs while Dyrus had only 140 instead, again why TSM has never will most likely will Never do well on the International stage.

" hi fives my brother from another mother " Same to you dude keep up the logical and unbiased research, Laters

MeaningfulOrgy1 votes

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Stop making sense and being reasonable XD. Yeah I want to give Bunny a chance but lets say they start off bad maybe 2-6 are they going to call in Hai or import a Korean player or other things, when the loses keep adding up the blame game will come in factor.

Nice points about Wildturtle I HATED that Bjergsen got all the resources on TSM. Top never ganked for and left to die 24/7 in every game, when the meta was Top lane shifted but TSM was still on the Mid lane for 5 years now. Looper-Smeb-Huni-MaRin was on dominant teams and had Great performances because they meta shifted for them and their team was smart enough to secure them vision and ganks but TSM only lives in the past.

Wildturtle had 1 ONE bad split reasons??? 1. their jungler santorin never ganks NEVER the dude had the lowest ganking pressure among the junglers for NA and EU. 2. Mid got all the focus and farm, again dwelling on the past and just focus on Bjergsen. 3. It was also the teams fault in not doing anything " oh no WIldturtle is caught out in a 1v2 hmm better run away and not help " says the 4-0 BJergsen who is playing Leblanc.

Back to Bunny you convinced me to give Bunny a chance but don't say I didn't warn you when the grapes turn sour Thanks for the comment Have a Good One !

The problem with turtle had nothing to do with Bjerg getting all the resources. TSM didn't let turtle play his style and put a lot of restrictions on him in game. All the crazy plays he makes where he flashes in and goes 1 v 3 that he is making on Immortals, he wouldn't be able to make on TSM. There are videos of them telling turtle before a game a whole list of things to make sure he did. The reason Turtle is shining now is because the coaching staff in Immortals is letting them play the game the style they want to play for better or worse (rip playoffs). He has a lot more confidence and showcasing what showcased at the beginning of his career when he would flash in and just make plays happen.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

indeed

anonymous1191 votes

Any line up they put forward has to deal with the Hai curse. C9 with out hai has looked beyond terrible even with talented players. Meteos looked fantastic at the all star event and he was playing carry junglers there.

Personally I think they're going to end up 6-7th and eventually have to bring hai back.

arc951 votes

I like it but nothing will ever beat the original line up T^T #C9Win

also willing to bet Hai will be back in the lineup by worlds C9 is just flat out better with him in the lineup

Soul to Senna1 votes

Lets hope that sneaky wins because he is love and he is life

gr33nb0x1 votes

I think they doing well with coach reaper:D

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Iv seen the newest episode of Cloud 9. When the coach was talking about doing a solo interview - Sneaky and Jensen were afraid and said " That sounds awkward" REALLY! My heart and prayers go out to them if they ever get a job in the real world. Also I don't care how good Reaper is as a back up coach mentor figure if they can't understand him its FUBAR.
I know they have a translator but its different hearing it out of someone else.

For example if Reaper says " ok Sneaky stop farming bot and get you A** mid and destroy this tower then rotate to dragon and get it, once you have done that GO to bot and push the waves as fast as possible doesn't matter if you get the cs just push the waves" The translator will say " UMM.. Sneaky could you like UMM stop farming and get the dragon and can you hurry up doing it and like UMM push the waves at bot and like push it BUT make sure you get the 10 cs THAT CS is very important while we are losing"

Reaper I'm sure curses at them and wants to get his points across but the translator might not include the curses as it might hurt their feelings and the point is lost.

Loboros1 votes

Needs more hai :(

GhostOfTsushima1 votes

Both Hai and Balls are going to be playing for Challenger team now

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