You have 3/5 awesome players in your team. And if OmarGod feels like a rookie, Huhi is just consistently bad. At least get someone that maybe isn't amazing mechanically but plays aggressive. Huhi is too passive and is not a playmaker.
Juggernaut6283 votesLul
Huhi is totally the reason why CLG isn't at worlds LUL
GeminiRune3 votesYou've attempted to do this before and you're still at it it seems. And you're still talking a lot of garbage without suitably backing it up. Do you really watch any or all of CLG's games or do you just watch how they lose and blame it all on Huhi even if it's poor calls or plays by anyone else on the team?
3 of 5 awesome players; this summer I put Huhi in that mix undoubtedly. Omar IS a rookie so he does get somewhat of a fair pass. So how does Huhi get the bad card and deserve the boot when if you want to use outcomes and results in your messed up logic, Stix and Aphro would be in their own risky funk more than he would.
TheEdgeOfDestiny1 votesIt's just confirms that my opinion is solid on this topic.
P.S.: Well. I have one argument to back my opinion. You been silver for 3 seasons. :)
xJLx MCHammer1 votesIt's just confirms that my opinion is solid on this topic.
P.S.: Well. I have one argument to back my opinion. You been silver for 3 seasons. :)
Aren't you bronze LMAO
Why make fun of a game who is silver?
TheEdgeOfDestiny1 votesYou didn't get what I said.
GeminiRune1 votesWhile I'm fine with being defended on that point, it's extremely irrelevant if you're really giving a thought out opinion rather than blowing steam for a triggered counterattack. I don't care about ranks; they're nothing but labels to me. I know what I know and that can't be shamed nor disputed so spontaneously.
GeminiRune1 votesUsing an already lost game at the indicated timestamp just makes you look even worse to proper backing of your claim. Even at that point I said the game was over. Even if Huhi hadn't died, C9 was in a clear stance to continue to push and aggress to the point of killing Huhi or backing him to fountain.
I don't need to be a Diamond player as much as even the likes of Riv to know when a game is done. If Riv can shoutcast a game, put his ten cents on analyzing, and even make a damn ranking for supports as a reputation Silver player, then why can't I tell you and your unsupportive delusions straight?
Your argument can't even come close to being backed up by a rank I don't give a damn about. And that just makes you sound oh so desperate to even shame me over just wanting a border because hey why not. What next? Raid my match history and shame me for my builds?
TheEdgeOfDestiny1 votesHuhi played like a silver player there. We was caught even though he had information about whole enemy team.
GeminiRune1 votesAnd it's not like that kind of pick hasn't happened in a crucial point to better teams? I can more than recall games in which the likes of Faker, Pawn, and Crown took a crucial pick over a boneheaded, out of place and way too overconfident action.
That still fails to establish a good counterpoint. Roll out the rest of the game where the rest of CLG attempts to widen their margins with Baron only to also find themselves caught out and let C9 fully swing their aggression in force. Huhi can't be pinned for scraps his team enacted on following that.
TheEdgeOfDestiny1 votesBut Huhi does these types of mistakes more consistent.
Remember him starting 0/2 with Aurelion Sol in game vs FlyQuest?
GeminiRune2 votesRemember that time where _X_midlaner started out 0/X? The midlaners I indicated in my last comment have. That, especially in a single game sample, is absolutely not indicative of anything. I could take any time Faker started off 0/3+ out of lane phase and still swung it around with the good of his team.
You are just nitpicking because you're adamant on hating Huhi regardless of how well he can perform.
TheEdgeOfDestiny1 votesTurn on your brain. I'm asking about specific game for a reason.
GeminiRune2 votesWhat reason? What possible reason can you use to back up your point off the last 5 minutes of a single game and the early game of another. Why don't you apply some real logic for a change instead of using less than 5 bits and pieces. Because anyone can do that and look just as disapproved for making such little sense.
2 Weeks Vacation2 votesThe reason CLG isn't at Worlds is because CLG wanted to prioritize playing OmarGod, thats why they kick Dardoch because he disagree so he join back into Team Liquid
Huhi was never mechanically good yeah and he can only play global Champion to roam and help his team but when they ban those Champion out, CLG is ruin
Darshan is also pretty garbo too, Staxxay isn't a good hard carry ADC
They KICK DoubleLift
They KICK Dardoch
they keep kicking players that carry their heavy weight
They might have a good reason to kick Dardoch because he doesn't reform
MysterQ2 votesBut Huhi also forces other teams to ban some strange stuff. So he has an impact there too.
TheEdgeOfDestiny1 votesAlso they are wasting cooldowns on him. Which is also nice. :)
TheEdgeOfDestiny1 votesDoubleLift played for TL.
Miror B1 votesI actually upvoted this if only because it kinda rings true with something me and bakuryu have been saying for a while, namely that CLG has had to replace their roster for a while but keeps "holding out" because a solid 4th is better than a risky shot at first? Will go down the list of these points, as I heavily disagree with some of them.
For me, the DD situation is something I didn't really get at first and upon seeing what happened with him still don't really understand why they brought him in in the first place. While importing a jg might have been a bit too expensive, the idea that they chose him (a guy who prior to this was booted off of two teams and has never been a guy who people have actively thought can bring a team to worlds with him) and didn't just start omar for the entire split and allow him to get used to things bothers me a bit. DD is almost certainly going to get an LCS roster spot next split, if only for the wrong reasons (the small ability to carry games and not taking up an import spot being the only positives).
For me if I had to rank Huhi, I'd put him on my 2nd of 3 tiers I have for midlaners. He is by no means top-tier (bjerg/jensen occupying that) but is by no means shite tier (my "3rd tier" being guys who are on LCS rosters but could very easily be replaced by challenger tier ones). Replacing him is kinda 50-50, as unless they find the next caps/perkz (guys who they could legitimately make a push for if they wanted to in the off-season) he's kinda the best they have.
One of the points I did agree with concerned Darshan, as he's looked quite terrible for well over a year now in which they could've actively replaced him and tried out guys like Solo or Licorice. He was meh in 2016 summer, looked ridiculously awful in 2017 spring, and when DD wasn't giving them an aggressive "go button" looked pretty shite in 2017 summer (hence why CLG "fell off" once they decided to boot DD). While he does provide veteran experience to the team, that's kinda the only positive especially now with like 80% of the toplaners being far better mechanically and/or korean.
Stixxay I'll pass on, only because botlanes in general are rarely consistent and often share the throne of best and worst weekly (apollo being a great example of this, as there was a literal stretch of 3 weeks during summer where he was regarded as the best botlaner only to then be considered the worst then back to best again).
Overall, I'm just confused as to why they didn't do the rebuild sooner. Maybe it was because they didn't want to deter investments even though I'm pretty sure businesses would look to invest in an upswinging group rather than a down-swinging one? Either case, if they don't do at least a partial rebuild in this offseason (get rid of darshan and bring in a 10-man roster for their LCS team) then there'll be legitimate concern as we could potentially see them lumped into TL territory where they know how to use quality talent but don't actually know how to "groom" them a la C9's contractz/jensen/smoothie.
Shockdamost1 votes[{quoted}](name=Phenomenal Beast,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=LcRh9Rrr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-17T15:27:30.479+0000)
The reason CLG isn't at Worlds is because CLG wanted to prioritize playing OmarGod, thats why they kick Dardoch because he disagree so he join back into Team Liquid
Huhi was never mechanically good yeah and he can only play global Champion to roam and help his team but when they ban those Champion out, CLG is ruin
Darshan is also pretty garbo too, Staxxay isn't a good hard carry ADC
Overall no one is consistent in CLG and CLG consistent making bad Move
They KICK DoubleLift
They KICK Dardoch
they keep kicking players that carry their heavy weight
They might have a good reason to kick Dardoch because he doesn't reform
Dardoch carry? lol what?
Sagan Forever2 votesHuhi and Darshan are there best players. Alphromo and Staxxay have been playing poorly for awhile now, and Omargod is alright( was terrible earlier, but now I think more a neutral). You should actually watch Huni and Darshan carry there team instead of complaining about how they were bad in spring split. I am confused if we are watching the same game.
Fowus1 votes*jungler
xJLx MCHammer1 votesHuhi is fine
He makes it hard to most teams to play against CLG because they can't ban him out. They just have to let him play whatever he normally wants. The issue this season is that they lost a big time jungle xSmithie and the meta isn't good for mid lane. There are 4 actually viable AP carry champions, 2 AD Champions, and 1 tank champion. So even if he picks a champion that no one wants to play, it's not very effective. Look at the game where he played Velkoz. He ults 5 people, they all lived... yet a Orianna with same items would have destroyed
Anyways, CLG needs to get a better jungle or Omergod needs to improve. A lot of their loses came down to their jungle not doing what he should have been doing. Walking into a brush into 5 people. Trying to attack a tank while the enemy is attacking an elder..etc. It's not all his fault; he has to delivery at the end of a season against top 6 teams; that's really not easy.
So CLG losing to C9/IMT/TSM doesn't make them bad. It's consistent with NA history. TSM and C9 tend to be the best followed by CLG...
