Why is Dyrus always getting beat up
While watching TSM play lately Dyrus is always getting ganked, and always in a position in a TF where he is isolated and eliminated.
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thats the TSM receipe. Its been like this for a decade. they have a very very traditional comp, which everyone already figured out, which still works but easier to counter. Their comp revolves around a mid carry, with their somewhat alright ADC, and a tanky TOP if farmed well to CC and absorb damage and stall enough for the others to clean up the enemy. To break the pillars, all you gotta do is mess up dyrus's farm, gank and kill him, make him scared and behind, after the first turrent is taken, its basically over for Dyrus. Hes a solid top laner though. He just needs better instructions from Locodoco to work around the comps to get over the weakness. When dyrus played champs like maokai, or sion, that had a good escape, tanky enough to take the damge while escaping, they were doing so so so good. But take away those champs, then Dyrus is just in a bad position. Everyone in LCS that plays dryus knows this story, sometimes they might work around it by warding more often or having jungler show more presence, but in all, it comes down to what champs Dyrus gets.
because if they leave him alone he will be a monster
Well, if they are ganking top that hard, they are not doing drags or camping mid, sounds like a good deal for TSM
imo Dyrus has been getting camped really hard, even though in the last game he got camped, his Irelia was still super scary and them camping him allows for the rest of TSM to win and Dyrus still doesn't do bad late game. he's a very good top laner and very consistent, which is more than i can say for Quas. ZionSpartan is a beast but i still wouldn't take him over Dyrus.
Dyrus is a good top, but he gets picked on and i wanted to see Irellia beat up ppl, not get bursted by 4 ppl. Santorin never dies tho and he is a jungler...
Dyrus is the best Top Laner (FOR TSM). Add someone like Quas or Zion and then you have a top laner who is focused on making a pick or grabbing a kill instead of protecting the team and TSM already has Bjergsen for that and he does it the best in NA.
Dyrus plays viable tanky top laners and that is what allows him to consistently play well from a stalemate or from behind, because he is a wall between the two teams while letting Bjerg and Santorin worry about making a play. Also when you say someone is "feeding or undeperforming" you have to know which role you are referring too. Going 0/4 as a Ahri mid would be underperforming for Bjergsen, but going 0/4 as a Sion top is not always underperforming, Dyrus has less escapes as a top laner and no matter how many times he dies will always be a tanky wall late game, he doesn't need to net kills because he doesn't need to build damage.
Also top lane is the easiest to pick on naturally with the less mobile champs, no duo partner, only 1 direction to retreat in and at the LCS level if the opposing teams sends 2 players to pick on your lane, you will either die or be set back for a bit. And if they send 3 well at the LCS level a 3 man gank means you stall them out while they have no way of making plays mid or bot and then you die and that is the only option. Dyrus doesn't typically get set back in 1v1, maybe he will lose a fight and get a death but 1 death happens in 1v1 and its not feeding. Typically Dyrus is ganked by 3 players and naturally at that level he will die because 3 LCS players is more than enough to secure a kill on a slow target.
The reason Dyrus is good because he stalls, walls, delays and just in general he takes one for the team which is why Bjergsen and WildTurtle are able to clean up. TSM a team that has always been at the top of NA (#1 or #2 generally) that alone is proof that as annoying as they are as a team, they are just good at what they do. TSM would fail if they had a top laner who was trying to be a Bjergsen and separate from the team to make solo plays like Zion. Or a Top lane like Quas who is super inconsistent and does well for 2-3 games and then is a nobody for 5-6 games.
The only thing TSM needs to improve is their team comps. They have worked their way to the top of NA this season using the same comfort comp over and over, and now its losing its edge.
Top Lane: Sion/Lissandra Jungle: Rek'sai/Jarvan Mid Lane: Ahri/Lissandra ADC: Sivir/Jinx Support: Janna
That's a huge portion of what they have been picking no matter the situation when it should look more like this...
Top Lane: Sion/Lissandra/Maokai/Gnar/Irelia Jungle: Rek'sai/Jarvan/Vi/Lee (The Big 4) Mid Lane: Ahri/Zed/Xerath/Leblanc ADC: Tristana/Sivir/Jinx/Kalista Support: Braum/Thresh/Morgana/Nami
All typical top tier viable champs but atleast more variety.