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What happened to Fnatic and Origen ?

SuperJediNinja··2 votes·2,091 views

They definitely aren't as strong as last year .....

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Raoul5 votes

USA bought all their good players for insane amounts of money.

Jötunheimr2 votes

Not our fault you can't pay your own players decent money. LOL

Raoul2 votes

Nah, you see, stuff gets more valuable when it is rare in your area. So for NA, good players are worth far more cash than they are in EU

Jötunheimr1 votes

Nah, we pay them less than our NA players lol.

Abyssphere2 votes

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Nah, we pay them less than our NA players lol.

According to...?

Linthe1 votes

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Not our fault you can't pay your own players decent money. LOL

Yea no kidding.. If EU would send Greece to debtor's prison, they might have money left over for ESports

Abyssphere2 votes

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Not our fault you can't pay your own players decent money. LOL

Nobody said anything about fault? It's just what happened. Fnatic lost three amazing players to NA because they pay more.

Why are you so willing to take everything as an attack on your region?

Xrusa2 votes

Fnatic new roster, Origen new midlaner and just generally choking. Fnatic only kept 2 members of their 18-0 team.

Jötunheimr1 votes

TSM has 4 new players

Xrusa3 votes

And they're playing like garbage over half the time so

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

Meta and new players Try not to think of the old roster as EU players. Before Huni and reignover were in EU, they were in Korea. One region will take from another.

SuperJediNinja1 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Earl Eulrich1 votes

preseason just changed a whole lot about how you play the game, and both these teams were carried mostly by their mid to lategame shotcalling and a collected early-game...which is no longer a really viable option, because you lack the vision later on to "out shotcall" if you ever fall behind early on.

Miror B1 votes

Fnatic lost their entire "voice" and are attempting to replace them with "meh" substitutes (not all koreans are born equal), whereas Origen lost their backbone in Xpeke. EU also got waaay tougher with G2/vitality/H2K* burying anyone who opposes them, forcing people to either get good or be relegated.

*with the recent news of forgiven, I'm sorta under the assumption that h2k will probably falter in the playoffs despite finishing in first with their next 4 games being against ele/uol/roc/spy. Although they were able to do wonders with a substitute mid-laner earlier in the season, the difference in skill level between ryu/selfie in a solo lane and forgiven/their next tier adc in a duo lane is arguably way bigger.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

depends on who´ll replace forgiven - maybe they´ll get another niels out of nowhere (though my best guess would be that they try getting pinoy aboard, would be the savest option if he´s willing to part with his CS team...cetainly no forgiven, but wouldn´t be much of a bruden either and he has room to grow still).

YumScrumptious962 votes

Forgiven got a temporary deferral of service, he can play for longer now.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

wow, that´s really good news...hope they´ll at least let him play out all the season, not only the split. H2K might be the best shot at worlds he´s ever gonna get.

B00B002 votes

deffeerals usually last until your name comes up again in a call up so depending on how often it happens he may be out for years, alternatly if he gets citizen ship elsewhere he can revoke his current one and never get called up but that is extreme

Darth Pixy Misa1 votes

Things are really looking up for Fnatic and EU LCS, Fnatic played great VS QG and Forgiven got a deferment(possibly a 2 year one, not sure yet).

So if Fnatic steps up their game and gets 4 wins that makes them 12-6 for the split.

Realistically IMO (if Fnatic wins all 4): Team Vitality will go 2-2 these next 2 weeks so they will have a record of 13-5 H2k will probably win all 4 of their next games making them 15-3. If they lose 1 they are 14-4 G2 will probably go 3-1 in their next games making them 14-4

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