Honestly feels like TSM doesn't even want to be at worlds...

i feel like bjerg needs a new team. he's the only player on tsm worth anything

Dyrus was worthless on Darius. Despite the buffs, Darius is Still very easily kited and avoidable. These teams need to stop picking him.

They care, but they are just costantly outsmarted and they are mechanically inferior to the competition in their group...

Biggest fail in TSM is actually Locodoco and Regi..... ofc Dyrus is the worst toplaner in worlds we knew before... and wildturtle beeind mediocre at best was clear before aswell..... but comon with better coaching they wouldnt look as garbage as they look now, just horrible.... way more horrible then expected (expected them to be last place in group but not with such a horrible performance... u can be last but right now they r the worst team thats not a wildcard.)

just because they are losing does not mean they do not care

a loss is a loss stop making excuses for them like its loco docos fault

or bjerg needs a new team

those are all irrelevant in regards to them losing

and because you are a tsm fan dont make excuses for them just stick with them upsets happen all the time they could really comeback

More like Throw Some More, amirite???

You're talking about a team that revolves their entire play around their mid laner. Of course he seems like the only good one, their whole plan is protect mid, if he dies, adc better be doing some damage. Only time I saw something different was Dyrus going nuts on Olaf and carrying.

TrashSM. Teamsolocrap. They are just terrible. Good thing C9 and CLG are here to save NA.

Only Bjergsen is good and the team is preventing him from using his full potential. He should honestly disband after worlds.

You people forget that TSM doesn't really have much choice than picking early power picks. They have so many flaws in their gameplay, and their mechanics are just inferior.

Even against KT with the LB they did nothing and fell in the end, same goes today they had the powerpicks, nothing happened. If they pick a late game team comp they'll just get crushed before they can surrender.

They definitely need to revamp their roster. Lustboy is still fairly lacking in communication and has been caught out numerous times. WildTurtle still treats major events like solo queue and goes full retard. I personally think Santorin has very little map pressure in comparison to other jungles. TBH. Why the fuck is Dyrus still here. He should have been dropped ages ago.

They went to worlds like 4 times already and never got the World Cup, they don't see anything special happening this year either.

I am also a TSM fan and I too have felt that way even in the since summer (save playoffs until the finals). Maybe winning is not important to them or they just don't care how they do once they make it to the next series/event. If so then leave the LCS, because no one wants a team to 'just be there' and no one wants to support a team who once had a great reputation of one of the best in the NA, who now seems like they won't even try to win. You just are not entertaining then which is against your job which being entertaining is apart of.

I'm sure they want to be there but they are garbage as a team... Dyrus id past his prime and he chose a perfect time to retire, lustboy makes way to many mistakes and has no synergy with wild turtle, Santorin need to just gtfo so TSM can get a jungler that doesn't AFK the majority of the game so they can put more pressure on the map and wildturtle just isn't that good.... I think if they have a complete overhaul tsm could be a top contender again...

I think they care, they were just relatively weak in a not super strong region :( all season. They turned it around enough to auto qualify w/ points, but not enough to compete on the world stage.