IF Santorin is so bad why does he have 15 kda?

Darth Pixy Misa·7/9/2015, 1:41:38 PM·2 votes·2,175 views

I agree that his early game pressure needs improvement, Why even Pick Rek'sai if you dont gank early? He should at least show up bot or top and be a annoying for a few sec early.

The Stats say he is doing well tho.

11 Comments

D1egend7/9/2015, 4:20:00 PM4 votes

i don't think he is BAD, Its just he has a 15 kda cuz he thats all he really cares about, everytime i saw wildturtle "caught out" it cud have been saved if santorin risked himself just a little. He always just runs away full hp. he shud sacrifice himself more

Xonra7/9/2015, 1:54:07 PM4 votes

Santorin is fine, he just happens to be the jungler for TSM, so if he sneezes out of key their will be a reddit filled backlash about how he is the worst LCS sneezing jungler or some such.

It isn't like Incarnation who actually is bad as stats show, since he is last in every category for mid laners as far as mid laners that have started every game. Even only third at best in most categories just on his own team and last in a few.

Santorin is fine.

Minrog7/10/2015, 4:24:45 AM3 votes

He avoids any confrontations except where he can snipe some damage on somebody who is already dying. From day 1, he has failed to back up his lanes and rather focused on farming. Watch the UoL vs TSM stuff from IEM San Hose, and then watch his games from last week. Nothing has changed in his playstyle and it's a joke that he got Rookie of the split. At least this time it will be Move, who is the best jungler in NA right now and deserves to be noticed.

AyRe CoNteMpT7/9/2015, 2:02:49 PM2 votes

KDA by itself indicates nothing. the best indicator to know if someone is a noob is if he speculates about LCS players skill.

Linthe7/9/2015, 2:17:44 PM1 votes

I wouldn't say Santorin is bad. He is good at warding. In the past he "looked" bad because Dyrus would push out or get turret dove and killed with Santorn nowhere in the area. That last part seems much improved on both of their parts.

I do think he needs to pressure more. He is more of a warding and farming jungler.

Earl Eulrich7/9/2015, 1:53:54 PM1 votes

he has a 15kda exactly because he is "so bad" - TSM would need him to take more risks and make plays, but he mostly plays overly passive/save. A good KDA not always indicates a good player.