NV vs Fox game 1

5.5 item ashe with NO armor pen items vs a pantheon and gragas with tons of armor. Not like taliyah is going to kill them - nor is kennen. Also, imagine if seraph had gone wit's end before i.e. - he survives the burst in that last fight and gives his team a valid chance to fight back and win instead of getting bursted. Also, maybe a voidstaff before the rylai's for taliyah? Would have gone a long way to making her damage matter. Sure slows on your q are nice, but if it deals 0 damage, then who cares if it slows you? Just my thoughts about game 1 of nv vs fox.