Let me tell you guys what Reginald is going to do for Summer Split

DL for WT for sure. But when Sven carried TSM vs the Koreans on worlds he was a god and now he's garbage. Funny how it changes so quickly. Yeah he had a bad tourney but so did Trick for example, while domesticly they are in the very top. Sven likes to play a lil risky yeah, but i feel thats also on his laners for not backing him up. I mean Peanut gets away with it all the time.

On a maybe interesting note, how come we never see Bjerg pop off anymore. I mean the Ahri game vs FW sure but thats about it imo. Sure he's stable and does a lot of damage but we never see him take over games anymore (ofc better competition but even vs the WC). The real problems for TSM lay within midgame shotcalling and vision control. They get ahead but cant close.

Even with Sven and Turtle, a coach that knew how to draft would've gotten them to playoffs in MSI

There's no saving any NA teams. Look at the Korean teams. They all have what, 3 potential subs all of whom are #2 or competing for #1 in their role with the current lane holder? They also have flex picks so they can send players to other lanes. NA teams have what, 1 sub who's typically only there to fill in for people who are sick and/or incapacitated. There isn't enough NA talent to fill even 1 team with adequate subs, let alone the six or seven we keep trying to juggle just to keep the LCS running. It's like trying to paint a house with a sharpie. You run out of ink really, really, really fast. Unless all the good NA players were piled onto 1 team, no NA team will ever be international good. Even watching them fight one another in the LCS is comical. So many mistakes. Meanwhile in Asia-land, it's like watching grand masters dance. No mistakes, just whoever is a little bit savvier on the day.

if tsm gets DL back in, they wont even be seen at worlds unless all other na teams keep sucking as hard as origens

I'm actually in a different boat, and sorta came to the realization that for TSM to cater to everyone's bloated demands (people actually think that they've been a "top-tier team" that can challenge koreans for a while) they either need to get a sister team or need to be smart with who they're acquiring. If I were to do rebuilding, it would go as follows:

Top: Hauntzer, Quas in as sub- One of the giant complains about hauntzer has been kinda two-fold: he can only really play the "meta picks" and often makes bone-headed mistakes from time to time. Adding someone like quas to be a motivator could alleviate both problems, while also adding in friendly competition should he perform somewhat poorly. Jg: Meteos- No real need to explain this, sven takes up an import slot and is by far a lee sin one trick. Meteos might have less of an upside, but brings a veteran presence that can elevate any team (see: P1). Mid: No change. Adc: DL, Forgiven in as sub/split-duties- For me, if you're going to use an import slot on someone then it should have immediate impact. Not only does forgiven bring a skillset which would make TSM immediately better (best western laning mechanics, deep pool, decent map awareness), but he'd also potentially make DL better. That, and having the two best western adc's of all time on the same team isn't exactly a bad thing Sup: No change, but adding a challenger support to "groom" under bio couldn't be a terrible idea

do you tsm fans every look at reality they didnt lose cause of wt or sven they lost cause they are tsm and they never respect opponents they are just a cocky mid lvl team from a kinda ez region thats it

They lost because of Coach Parth. That guy had some shitty drafts. The tie breaker game, he banned off Kog and Twitch, which Betty had not even played ONCE in MSI. They gave Ashe away for free.

Turtle needs to go, which is why DL is coming in Thank God. Svenskeren is fine. The guy made some mistakes, but mostly he is a solid jungler.

Honestly kick sven hire rush (everyone has a price) and TSM would be a force; and ofc DL coming back to replace turtle

They do need a new coach. I want to know what their prep actually looks like... because whatever it is, it hasn't been working all season. They keep losing the first game of so many series, which - if you have good players - basically comes down to poor prep.

I do think Wildturtle is the wrong type of ADC for Bio to support for. Not necessarily saying DL needs to come back, but they either need the type of support who is on the same page as wildturtle's aggression(something Immortals had) or they need an ADC who matches bio. DL matched Bio really well, WT doesn't.