NA made fun of EU. NOW what?

xJLx MCHammer·Oct 9, 2016·44 votes·3,843 views

Man sucks, doesn't it. Karma?

C9 lets go

72 Comments

AwesomeChadOct 9, 201610 votes

Best summary of EU and NA fans: Autistic retards who don't have anything better to do but talk sht about other regions/teams and overhype their own region.

TeCoolMageOct 9, 20161 votes

Yeah Korean overlords all the way

Gaxx DOct 9, 20167 votes

Isn't it like that every worlds? The only exception was season 4 where NA seemed to be pretty weak throughout the entire year, and so there was no fuss coming from NA - and look at that - EU didn't leave groups while NA had both TSM and C9 advancing. NA fanboys never learn.

BIH DiamondOct 10, 20161 votes

What? NA is 6-0 against EU. If anyone can talk shit about NA, it's not EU. They're the worst big region right now

KazaLyn ShaoOct 9, 20166 votes

Now NA goes home. I seriously doubt C9 goes anywhere. NA hypes up for one week of Worlds, and then embarrasses itself as a region once again. TSM in particular. They had all the tools. Too bad none of that translated to professional play.

7thHeavenOct 9, 201616 votes

How to go home if they were ready at home ? [zombie-brand-mindblown]

LandreinOct 9, 20161 votes

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Now NA goes home. I seriously doubt C9 goes anywhere. NA hypes up for one week of Worlds, and then embarrasses itself as a region once again. TSM in particular. They had all the tools. Too bad none of that translated to professional play.

The problem is the NA teams have the skill. Skillwise, they are probably better than the European top teams this year. However, they don't give a shit. They don't take the other regions teams seriously, don't bother to play cleanly, and don't play up to their skill level. And while they have some passable skill, they are no where near enough to be so damn smug. If they ever bothered to try, maybe, just maybe, they wouldn't be such an embarrassment.

B00B00Oct 9, 20164 votes

Hats harsh.

NA are getting better every em year, so was EU but this year NA improved leaps and bounds and EU stood still, what you need to look at is how close games are now the west as a whole is no longer being stomped consistently the gap is closing, and closing fast (especially NAs macro play this year)

Now I'm not a fan of tsm but I was still cheering them, personally C9 if they can make qauters I think will do good in best of 5s that's where C9 shine and are scary to face their bo1s however aren't always great.

Yxgl222HaXOct 9, 20161 votes

They always hype up tsm because its the bandwagon team and then it ends up being c9 as NA's last hope. C9 probally wont win, but hopefully they can do something like they did in season 4 like they did beating najin and kicking out kabum that would at least make it fun to watch, i feel like they can at least do that much. Like MABYE and im not saying they will, but mabye somehow play spoiler in groups and take first seed with jensen getting a solo kill on faker- would make things less boring and predictable. Sure it may not be likely to go down that way but meh. One can hope

MasziiOct 9, 20161 votes

S4 would have been interesting without the Kabum loss from Alliance ^^. Triple tiebreaker i believe.

Yxgl222HaXOct 9, 20161 votes

Yeah it would have been pretty cool either way but c9 and kabum did manage to add that dynamic which made it all the more memorable for me as a c9 fan to get to watch them have a lasting impact on worlds for once lol

LandreinOct 9, 20164 votes

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Man sucks, doesn't it. Karma?

C9 lets go

It isn't Karma. EU showed itself as a terrible region. They are the Joke of worlds. That the NA teams have decided to actively compete for the title of worlds joke isn't Karma, it is history. NA teams will always and forever throw at worlds. the EU v. NA debates are simply two regions actively fighting about who will be the most laughable losers in any given tournament.

KazaLyn ShaoOct 9, 20162 votes

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It isn't Karma. EU showed itself as a terrible region. They are the Joke of worlds. That the NA teams have decided to actively compete for the title of worlds joke isn't Karma, it is history. NA teams will always and forever throw at worlds. the EU v. NA debates are simply two regions actively fighting about who will be the most laughable losers in any given tournament.

Isn't that the truth. NA is winning the "we're the bigger joke" award, though.

LandreinOct 9, 20162 votes

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Isn't that the truth. NA is winning the "we're the bigger joke" award, though.

At the moment? I can't really argue with you as much as I want to.

D2PoliceGotMeOct 9, 20162 votes

doesn't hurt being that stupid? Seriosly, your region is a joke, get over it, the only good thing you guys are good at is to trash talk EU, but in the end, thats the reality: EU>NA. 4ever.

Oh, and i just checked, your a s4, i guess thats why u are so salty, u wont accept the fact that EU will always be better than NA.

DarkRitualOct 9, 20161 votes

EU is 7-12 in groups. NA is 8-7 in groups. (Pending Group B results). Sorry, but NA has done better than EU so far when the regions are taken as a whole, and is still guaranteed to have a better overall Groups record. Both NA and EU have one group where they don't have to compete against the other (Group C which H2K made it out of, and Group B which C9 plays in today). It remains to be seen if NA will get a team out of Groups, since it's impossible to say anything about how group B plays out untill it's done (as other groups have proven).

Nothing can really be said about if one region is better this year untill we see if C9 gets a NA team out of groups this year. If they don't, then yeah NA sucks on the Worlds stage again. If they do, then it's up to C9 and H2K to show us which region is better this year.

xJLx MCHammerOct 9, 20161 votes

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EU is 7-12 in groups. NA is 8-7 in groups. (Pending Group B results). Sorry, but NA has done better than EU so far when the regions are taken as a whole, and is still guaranteed to have a better overall Groups record. Both NA and EU have one group where they don't have to compete against the other (Group C which H2K made it out of, and Group B which C9 plays in today). It remains to be seen if NA will get a team out of Groups, since it's impossible to say anything about how group B plays out untill it's done (as other groups have proven).

Nothing can really be said about if one region is better this year untill we see if C9 gets a NA team out of groups this year. If they don't, then yeah NA sucks on the Worlds stage again. If they do, then it's up to C9 and H2K to show us which region is better this year.

They did better in terms of winning. CLG and TSM won all the games that they could and lost the game they shouldn't

EU lost many games but when it came down to it, they won't all their games in when they needed to. It's why so far they have gotten a team past groups

I hope c9 gets through

Gaxx DOct 9, 201619 votes

"two regions actively fighting about who will be the most laughable losers in any given tournament."

And you're speaking of history? EU had 2 semifinalists in s2, 1 in s3, didn't get out of groups in s4 and 2 semi finalists in s5. I left out s1, because NA fanboys like to pretend it never happened, because EU won, so let's ignore it. Now let's look at NA - s2 - TSM got a free bye to quaterfinals because they were 1st in NA, none of the teams got out of the groups. s3 - C9 got a free bye to quaters, none of the teams got out of the groups, s4 - TSM and C9 got out of the groups for the first time, s5 - no NA teams out of the groups. It's true, that EU is weakest it ever was, but still H2K got out of the groups. Meanwhile NA fanboys kept trashtalking EU all season long - just like always - so yes - it is karma. When your fanbase is acting like that, your teams don't deserve to win anything.

LandreinOct 9, 20162 votes

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"two regions actively fighting about who will be the most laughable losers in any given tournament."

And you're speaking of history? EU had 2 semifinalists in s2, 1 in s3, didn't get out of groups in s4 and 2 semi finalists in s5. I left out s1, because NA fanboys like to pretend it never happened, because EU won, so let's ignore it. Now let's look at NA - s2 - TSM got a free bye to quaterfinals because they were 1st in NA, none of the teams got out of the groups. s3 - C9 got a free bye to quaters, none of the teams got out of the groups, s4 - TSM and C9 got out of the groups for the first time, s5 - no NA teams out of the groups. It's true, that EU is weakest it ever was, but still H2K got out of the groups. Meanwhile NA fanboys kept trashtalking EU all season long - just like always - so yes - it is karma. When your fanbase is acting like that, your teams don't deserve to win anything.

lol yeah you won season 1 when your only competition was NA. good job, you beat the other jokes. You spent most of this year at msi and worlds having your top team schooled by the loosers CLG. Your other team went 1/6? H2K made it out to your credit so it isn't a total loss. You, I think won msi once with Moscow five, though Russia is in its own server now, So I don't think that counts, especially since the same region just showed you how hard it can school your top team. Lets see, yeah, you haven't won worlds since they allowed regions other than NA in, and you have been outdone by china from the first time they entered the tournament. So, sorry friend, you guys are still kind of bad.

Gaxx DOct 9, 20164 votes

Reading comprehension isn't your forte, is it? I specifically said, that EU is weakest in the history, but still, H2K managed to get out of the groups. And you're speaking of "being outdone by other regions"? NA hasn't been outdone ONLY by wildcards so far. And with ANX advancing out of the groups, they're now tied. if ANX manages to get to the semis (unlikely, but who knows), NA will be historically the weakest region ever to enter the worlds stage. Oh, and in s1 there were 2 Chinese teams. They were pretty darn weak, but still, I just felt like correcting you, since you don't seem to have your facts straight.

LandreinOct 9, 20161 votes

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Reading comprehension isn't your forte, is it? I specifically said, that EU is weakest in the history, but still, H2K managed to get out of the groups. And you're speaking of "being outdone by other regions"? NA hasn't been outdone ONLY by wildcards so far. And with ANX advancing out of the groups, they're now tied. if ANX manages to get to the semis (unlikely, but who knows), NA will be historically the weakest region ever to enter the worlds stage. Oh, and in s1 there were 2 Chinese teams. They were pretty darn weak, but still, I just felt like correcting you, since you don't seem to have your facts straight.

Make more shit up, it wont help you. Fact is that EU is competitive compared to NA. Your success was only there when you there was no one else in worlds. In fact, Your teams will always be lesser tear to China, Korea, LMS. That is why you foster the NA/EU argument. It is the only metric you can claim success at. And as MSI proved, you don't always succeed by that pathetic metric either.

Colombo16Oct 9, 20163 votes

Let me get this straight, even with EU destroying the LMS and China for the last 2 years at worlds, they're still inferior to them? No one stacks up to Korea, so that doesn't really bother anyone.

LankPantsOct 9, 20161 votes

Let me get this straight, even with EU destroying the LMS and China for the last 2 years at worlds, they're still inferior to them?

EU hasn't destroyed China in any two consecutive years really. EU were stronger than China in 2012 and 2015 and weaker in 2013 and 2014.

This year China is doing better than the EU LCS unquestionably and can be doing better than Europe depending on how you want to define Europe. If Albus Nox is a EU team then they're equal. This is not too disingenuous considering 3 of ANL's players are from the Ukraine and their Russian players are almost definitely from European Russia.

LankPantsOct 9, 20167 votes

lol yeah you won season 1 when your only competition was NA. good job, you beat the other jokes.

You're right, it's clearly better to lose to the only competition than beat them.

You, I think won msi once with Moscow five, though Russia is in its own server now

M5 went on to become Gambit Gaming and played in the EU LCS from season 3-5. They were certainly an EU team. The only reason why Russia is not part of the EU LCS is because it's a legal nightmare to allow Russian players to work in Germany. That's part of the reason why a lot of people want to see the EU LCS moved away from Germany to a country with looser restrictions on players from all countries, but especially Russia. This would likely be France or the Netherlands.

Lets see, yeah, you haven't won worlds since they allowed regions other than NA in, and you have been outdone by china from the first time they entered the tournament.

So are you just ignoring Origin and Fnatic last year? How about Fnatic and Gambit in S3, who both made it out of groups. Even if we assume that M5/Gambit wasn't an EU team (which is stupid) are you just ignoring CLG EU in S2?

Let's list out the teams from both regions who have got past groups in each worlds since S2

NA: TSM (2012), autoplaced into quarters, lost 0/2 to Azb Frost C9(2013) autoplaced into quarters, lost 1/2 to Fnatic TSM/C9(2014) Made it to quarters legit this time C9(2016) In contention

EU: M5/CLG EU(2012) semifinals Gambit(2013) advanced to quarters, Fnatic(2013) semifinals Fnatic/Origin(2015) semifinals H2K(2016) confirmed quarters

How you going to twist this to make NA look better than EU? Now for the interesting one.

China:

WE(2012) autoplaced in quarters, lost 0/2 to CLG EU, IG(2012) advanced to quarters OMG(2013) advanced to quarters, Royal(2013) runners up OMG(2014) semifinals, SRC(2013) runners up EDG(2015) quarterfinals EDG/RNG(2016) confirmed quarters, IMay(2016) in contention

When you compare EU to China they're closer than EU to NA. Especially when you consider EU's 2015 was comparable to China's 2014. Had Origin and Fnatic had the same draw as Royal Club and OMG in 2015 Fnatic and Origin would have met ion the semis and you would have had an EU finalist. In the same vain had China had EU's 2015 draw it's likely that SSB would have beat whatever Chinese team they played for a SSW/SSB final.

When you look at simply which team was better at each worlds ignoring KR who are clearly the best by a wide margin in every season bar S2, where EU was actually the best major region you get

2012: EU>China>NA 2013: China>EU>NA 2014:China>NA>EU 2015:EU>China>NA

Spot the trend.

Lets see, yeah, you haven't won worlds since they allowed regions other than NA in

Factually incorrect.

S1 Worlds contained two teams representing Asia, they were there because they were the strongest teams in Asian tournaments. They were Xan, a Singaporean team and Team Pacific from the Philippines. In order to reach S1 worlds these teams had to beat some early Chinese and Korean teams, which they did because LoL was not established in Asia at all, they failed to beat western teams for the same reason.

LandreinOct 9, 20162 votes

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"two regions actively fighting about who will be the most laughable losers in any given tournament."

And you're speaking of history? EU had 2 semifinalists in s2, 1 in s3, didn't get out of groups in s4 and 2 semi finalists in s5. I left out s1, because NA fanboys like to pretend it never happened, because EU won, so let's ignore it. Now let's look at NA - s2 - TSM got a free bye to quaterfinals because they were 1st in NA, none of the teams got out of the groups. s3 - C9 got a free bye to quaters, none of the teams got out of the groups, s4 - TSM and C9 got out of the groups for the first time, s5 - no NA teams out of the groups. It's true, that EU is weakest it ever was, but still H2K got out of the groups. Meanwhile NA fanboys kept trashtalking EU all season long - just like always - so yes - it is karma. When your fanbase is acting like that, your teams don't deserve to win anything.

Oh and for the record, here are the winners, runner ups and semi finalist for each season

S1 (W) Fanatic: Europe (R) Against all Authority: Europe (S) TSM: NA

S2 (W) Taipei Assasin: Taiwan (R) Azubu Frost: Korea (S) CLG: NA (S) Moscow Five: Europe

S3 (W) SKT1: Korea (R) Royal Club: China (S) Fanatic: Europe (S) Naijin Black Sword: Korea

S4 (W) SSG White: Korea (R) Starhorn Royal Club: China (S) OMG: China (S) SSG Blue Korea

S5 (W) SKT1: Korea (R) Koo Tigers: Korea (S) Fanatic: EU (S) Origien: EU

(And as we can all expect no NA or EU teams will reach Semis in season 6)

So, lets go through this shall we? EU won season 1 and had the runner up when I guess there was no one but their fellow jokes in NA to beat. In season two, EU had ONE semi finalist, not two and NA was the other putting them behind both Taiwan and Korea in their first worlds. In season 3, they had 1 team in Semi's again (Fanatic who will prove the only Western team NA or EU that can consistently do anything.) This would show that both Korea and, now, China were better than Europe even though it was China's first worlds. In S4, Europe failed to even make it out of groups. NA made it out of groups but drew and lost to each of the Korean teams proving only what we all already know. In Season 5 Europe had it's best tournament since they had to compete with real talent and managed to still not win anything but at least have two teams make semis. Still none of them could make it to the finals which is probably why Europe measures its success, not by winning tournaments, but by placing higher than the NA teams. It is the only standard by which they can claim success.

Gaxx DOct 9, 201613 votes

S2 (W) Taipei Assasin: Taiwan (R) Azubu Frost: Korea (S) CLG: NA (S) Moscow Five: Europe

Again - get your facts straight. CLG didn't leave groups, the semifinalst was CLG EU, a team from Europe, with Froggen, Krepo, Wickd, Yellowpete and Snoopeh.

"This would show that both Korea and, now, China were better than Europe even though it was China's first worlds." Once again, China had 2 teams in s1 and in season 2 there was Invictus Gaming and World Elite (who was thought to be one of the best teams in the world back then, with Misaya running mid).

Just... stop. You have absolutely no idea about LoL history, it's quite obvious you're new to LoL pro-scene and you can't even look up proper info on the web.

MasziiOct 9, 20162 votes

Just stop trying dude, he's just too butthurt he can't see clear ;).

Just JangleOct 9, 20162 votes

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"two regions actively fighting about who will be the most laughable losers in any given tournament."

And you're speaking of history? EU had 2 semifinalists in s2, 1 in s3, didn't get out of groups in s4 and 2 semi finalists in s5. I left out s1, because NA fanboys like to pretend it never happened, because EU won, so let's ignore it. Now let's look at NA - s2 - TSM got a free bye to quaterfinals because they were 1st in NA, none of the teams got out of the groups. s3 - C9 got a free bye to quaters, none of the teams got out of the groups, s4 - TSM and C9 got out of the groups for the first time, s5 - no NA teams out of the groups. It's true, that EU is weakest it ever was, but still H2K got out of the groups. Meanwhile NA fanboys kept trashtalking EU all season long - just like always - so yes - it is karma. When your fanbase is acting like that, your teams don't deserve to win anything.

Pretty much dis, S4 is the exception of the rule.

And the rule is that, EU > NA.

MasziiOct 9, 20161 votes

Fnatic vs OMG never forget #ripheart

Yxgl222HaXOct 9, 20164 votes

You'd think the Eu vs NA circle jerk would get old eventually once the novelty wears off but i guess not. Imo i would be fine with EU winning worlds even if NA got kicked out of groups as long as its not korea AGAIN. I dont really watch eu lcs much but i do watch unicorns their games are fun to watch. Even then i still expected more from g2 at least... heres hoping things go well for both c9 AND h2k

LandreinOct 9, 20163 votes

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You'd think the Eu vs NA circle jerk would get old eventually once the novelty wears off but i guess not. Imo i would be fine with EU winning worlds even if NA got kicked out of groups as long as its not korea AGAIN. I dont really watch eu lcs much but i do watch unicorns their games are fun to watch. Even then i still expected more from g2 at least... heres hoping things go well for both c9 AND h2k

See I wouldn't. Neither NA nor EU deserve to win worlds. They can win when they prove they deserve it. I would rather see ANX win worlds then these self indulgent jokes. At least ANX wants it which is more than I can say for EU or NA.

Yxgl222HaXOct 9, 20161 votes

it remains to be seen if they deserve to win or not imo. we really have yet to see much of cloud 9 playing on the world stage this year and yes they lost to skt, and looked like crap aginst fw but historically c9 is one of those teams that starts out bad then gets better as they go on (basically their summer and spring splits the last 2 years) and h2k started out shaky but theyve shown they can do well, if they keep a level head and play their own game and not to the pace of other teams. I believe its unlikely they will win sure but i dont believe its fair to judge a team based on their region. ANX is coming up big but i highly doubt any other russian team would have made it out of groups. The TEAM that wins worlds will get the cup because THEY deserve it. If h2k somehow won worlds it wouldnt have been because they where from eu, but because they worked their butts off non stop to get there. Same for c9 and any other team. SKT isnt considered the best just because they are korean they work their butts off and it shows. The fact that you have to play so many games to get to finals shows that if you win it you deserve it. You had to beat your own region, then beat every other region to get that far. If those wins where flukes or hyped up you will be filtered out and wont make it to finals. Like G2 and TSM so far. G2 is the best in their region but its a region that was shaky at best, and tsm was hyped up as fk but for several years now it comes down to c9 being na's last hope.

LankPantsOct 9, 20161 votes

They can win when they prove they deserve it.

If H2K or C9 can pull a worlds win out of their arses they'd deserve it. They really can't but you don't win worlds without deserving it.

LandreinOct 9, 20161 votes

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If H2K or C9 can pull a worlds win out of their arses they'd deserve it. They really can't but you don't win worlds without deserving it.

all that means is that they won't win worlds. Because we all know they don't deserve too.

GnortsOct 9, 20163 votes

Both RNG & TSM are 3-3. why is RNG going n not TSM?

MunchCrunchLunchOct 9, 20169 votes

because tsm lost to RNG which gives them advantage.

Kal Vas FlamOct 9, 20162 votes

Well NA still looking better overall, but we still need to get C9 out of groups. I'm glad EU got someone through.

LandreinOct 9, 20166 votes

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Well NA still looking better overall, but we still need to get C9 out of groups. I'm glad EU got someone through.

right, that is why the number 1 and 2 seats didn't make it out of groups and won the same number of games in week 2 that g2 and splice did. the ONLY good thing you can say about na this year is that they didn't go 0/10 in weak two this time.

Kal Vas FlamOct 9, 20165 votes

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right, that is why the number 1 and 2 seats didn't make it out of groups and won the same number of games in week 2 that g2 and splice did. the ONLY good thing you can say about na this year is that they didn't go 0/10 in weak two this time.

Even if C9 loses every game tomorrow NA will have a better overall record this year at worlds and that could possibly hold true even after H2K plays in the quarters as they are likely to get swept. But hey whatever floats your boat. Let's see how C9 does tomorrow. You act like Worlds is already over.

MasziiOct 9, 20161 votes

Not sure who would sweep H2K, since if the C9 group plays out without C9 going trough, it would be RNG/FW/ANX for H2K. They have a chance vs them all and a really good chance vs ANX/RNG.

MasochistOct 9, 20162 votes

Like, seriously, who gives a shit? Do your pathetically fragile egos hinge on the success of a regions esports team? You're not part of their victories or defeats. You don't get to take credit.

Fact is, the only thing western players should be upset about is that it's the same tournament again. All Korea and China.

Something needs to change, or both NA and EU just need to concede the whole tournament deal and step down to save themselves some embarrassment.

Frankly, worlds have become stale, and boring.

And Riot needs to drop this single game/round robin bullshit.

They have five weeks of plans - but only use three days a week. Bo5 games could easily fill up two or three weeks, and show true skill - where games won't hinge off one bad game, where real comebacks are possible.

Oh well. This will be the last worlds I watch - not because NA isn't going to make it to groups, but because it's become repetitive and boring.

xJLx MCHammerOct 9, 20161 votes

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Like, seriously, who gives a shit? Do your pathetically fragile egos hinge on the success of a regions esports team? You're not part of their victories or defeats. You don't get to take credit.

Fact is, the only thing western players should be upset about is that it's the same tournament again. All Korea and China.

Something needs to change, or both NA and EU just need to concede the whole tournament deal and step down to save themselves some embarrassment.

Frankly, worlds have become stale, and boring.

And Riot needs to drop this single game/round robin bullshit.

They have five weeks of plans - but only use three days a week. Bo5 games could easily fill up two or three weeks, and show true skill - where games won't hinge off one bad game, where real comebacks are possible.

Oh well. This will be the last worlds I watch - not because NA isn't going to make it to groups, but because it's become repetitive and boring.

If it has become stale or boring..FOR YOU. Don't watch it. Don't come to the boards to try and condescend people because you believe you have a superior mindset. You are in a forum, complaining to people who show interest in a game. If anything I should be asking you why are you in a forum if you have no interest in the forum. Do you get off at acting superior.

Hey! do us all a favor. Go do something more meaningful than coming to a forum acting superior.

MasochistOct 9, 20162 votes

LOL Given the content of this thread, and other threads like it - with you condescending my condescending tone about other people's condescending tones - I'm just going to laugh at how stupid and useless your post is.

BIH DiamondOct 10, 20161 votes

Like, seriously, who gives a shit? Do your pathetically fragile egos hinge on the success of a regions esports team? You're not part of their victories or defeats. You don't get to take credit.

Yeah I agree. It's interesting at first but in the end it turns out to be the same shit every year. EU and NA are both garbage, who gives a shit? This is league lmao, nothing big. It's not like my favorite team in an actual sport lost or got shit on or anything like that

JDB8eoX8x0Oct 9, 20161 votes

EU is falling behind in Worlds because all the good EU teams are only out for cash and immediately dump their team for a new one. Just gonna point at Fnatic last Worlds. People have no obligation to practice and improve, they just dump their team for a new contract and then lose another Worlds game. It's what almost all teams do, no matter the region, but it frustrates me a lot eitherway. I wish some competitive players would show some balls and stand with their team, practice, fix what they did wrong and work on it and THEN return to Worlds. But no, instead they are just out looking for the cash and getting handed around like a doll.

The Yetii RiderOct 9, 20161 votes

You mean like Dyrus? Dyrus stayed with TSM for at least a few years I think.

BigBellBruteOct 10, 20161 votes

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EU is falling behind in Worlds because all the good EU teams are only out for cash and immediately dump their team for a new one. Just gonna point at Fnatic last Worlds. People have no obligation to practice and improve, they just dump their team for a new contract and then lose another Worlds game. It's what almost all teams do, no matter the region, but it frustrates me a lot eitherway. I wish some competitive players would show some balls and stand with their team, practice, fix what they did wrong and work on it and THEN return to Worlds. But no, instead they are just out looking for the cash and getting handed around like a doll.

This is one reason why I really can't get totally behind a team. By the time I like a team, 4/5 of the players have moved on. I don't blame the players for taking the best deal they can though. Their careers are so short and they don't get much of a life outside of lol.

BigBellBruteOct 10, 20161 votes

Now what?

NA 4-0 vs EU.
NA 9-9 EU 7-12
NA 2,3,3 EU 1,4,4

Placing 1-8 NA, EU 9-11 NA, NA (3-3)
12-13 Neither. (2-4) 14-16. EU, EU, (1-5)

Region by region record. Korea 15-4. .789 NA 9-9 .500 China 9-10 .473 LMS 5-7 .416 Wildcards 5-8 .384 EU 7-12 .368

Na 2nd best record. EU Worst record.

NA>>>>>>Eu by any objective measure. That's now what.

The only reason H2k did anything is they got the weakest group, a group without any of the two top region's teams in it. And lucky them, they got the wild card in the quarters.

TheDeviceOct 10, 20161 votes

Who cares SKT gonna win

Dust MarloweOct 10, 20161 votes

NA still had a better showing than EU overall. One day of god-like play from an up-and-down team like H2K doesn't change that. TSM disappionted no doubt, but CLG was better than expected and C9 at least met expectations, arguably was better than expected.