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III BAKURYU III ··1 votes·1,131 views

To Riot or for whom it may concern.
I personally am sick and tired of trying to find LCS information on other websites.
What's the point in having a website to show LCS events etc but not show anything but 2 events; one of the two events being Worlds thats has already happened 2 months or so ago and the other event being the All-Star which surprisingly has more content/videos talking about that event more so than Worlds did.

Trades/Player movement/Firings/etc is never covered and if it is covered and put into an "article" it's already been 3 months and every fan has already known about that certain article by finding the information themselves. Regular fans are pretty much better than 80% of the current Riot staff STRAIGHT UP #Garbage

*Articles - You should put out content to get the most $ at the end of the day such as All-Star tickets-Worlds etc but having nothing about LCS trades/coach staff changes/players retiring/etc nothing. In the past I would say 3 months I personally have read/looked up information on different websites explaining movements such as Deft leaving EDG for KT same for Pawn and possibly Smeb and Mata, Weldon leaving TSM, Arrow and Ryu joining Phoenix 1, Febiven rejoining H2K, etc.
Like who works at Riot at the moment covering this shitt if anyone? I understand taking a break from your job etc but for MONTHS and with so much content out there that still hasn't been covered by YOU RIOT it's a mediocre coverage from you current employees.

" Oh we want people to watch and care about the LCS and the game and League of Legends" - NOT A REAL QUOTE FROM RIOT! Made up by me!!!!!

  • No you really don't! Numerous times people have given you numerous job applications willing to work and willing to cover this product and yet you don't bat an eye at their applications. Only saying stuff like " not qualified or has no experience working for Riot or just no former experience in E-Sports". Oh but the people currently working at Riot are fucking scientists, the current (RIOTEERS) can't cover anything but the same shitt over and over and over again numerous All-Star videos numerous Worlds literally the same videos/articles each day ( All-Star survival guide, All-Star votes, All-Star Fire and Ice, All-Star team fire or team ice,) like we get it, those articles could just be in 1 article but I suppose the other news stated before is nothing compared to an event that HAS THOSE PLAYERS! " Oh but the casters will talk about x player leaving x team for another and the other trades etc" - Yeah gj only X weeks later 10/10. It's like a news station covering The Boston bombing/marathon four weeks after the event.

    I won't go into great detail over this next topic as it regards personal info and as an outsider it's better if anyone wanting to know the story just look it up themselves. It's on youtube just type in ( For those of you that get turned down for a job at Riot/ on stateoftheleague channel).
    A interviewer known as (Travis Gafford) from my knowledge applied for Riot way back say 5-7 years or so ago. I believe he already knew Doublelift because of the whole ( Homeless-Roommate story) and it was actually D-lift telling Travis about applying for Riot etc. Short story he was turned down by Riot because ? you guessed it " didn't have enough experience" Are you kidding me? A guy who lived with and helped in their moment and time in need one of Riot's top players(D-Lift) on 1 of the most recognizable teams(CLG) wasn't qualified enough even with past/current at the time college experience Jesus! Oh and this would be 5-7 years... ago imagine trying to apply now in this economy....yeah. # NEED EXPERIENCE TO GET EXPERIENCE From my knowledge Travis doesn't actually work for Riot nor did he ever but he's arguably the most recognizable interviewers in the E-Sports scene.

    I will talk more about this topic with anyone willing to comment/respond to my post.
    Thank you and Happy Holidays!

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Miror B3 votes

Yeah, their lack of detail on roster moves is definitely "weird" only because it's not only massively helping other sites/apps get noticed (the score having probably the best of both worlds, as unlike this site you can get the news "spoiler free" ), but also preventing them from truly branching out/blurring the line between this and actual sports. Considering how many roster moves are made during the offseason (this one being notable due to all the EU players heading to NA), they could not only add a ton of new content but also add a bunch of new jobs if they were to do what would essentially be an off-season weekly PTL roster news show.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

I do like how other sites cover the E-sports(league of Legends scene) however when those sites are talking about topics/situations other than just the same 2 topics that Riot's own site doesn't talk or create content about what the other non-related sites cover it's alarming.

I understand branching out but let's say for example a League player wants to know about the recent news about League of Legends he either goes to Riot's own game/news League of Legends homepage/front page or does the person go to ESPN.com? Why are other sites not really involved that much in E-Sports talking and creating more content more so than Riot themselves? ESPN.com has content involving E-Sports/League of Legends etc etc. Which is 100% Fine, I LOVE IT and Love the situation that ESPN and Riot have and their relationship.
However is it laziness from Riot's standpoint that these other sites are doing more than Riot themselves? People who like watching basketball(NBA) or football(NFL) go to NBA and NFL .com they do go to ESPN.com as well, they see E-sports and check it out; which is the whole point in having those sites which again I applaud it's smart and makes sense. I would be annoyed however if I was a League player/fan of E-sports and League of Legends and my own game's site has slim to none content involving what I watch or play. It's like going to a math class to learn about math, however down the hall in the English class they teach English but they also teach math better than the math class themselves! You see my point?

League and E-sports aren't .... may I say as established.. as the other sports are but yet the less established sport( E-Sports) doesn't do as much but their the underdogs and yet they want people to keep watching and playing their content, I just don't get it.

  • Thank for for commenting and giving me your perspectives and insights on the situation thank you and Happy Holidays!
III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Sorry I forgot about your " they could not only add a ton of new content but also add a bunch of new jobs if they were to do what would essentially be an off-season weekly PTL roster news show".

  • I agree. Riot listens to people but yet they don't really know how many of us there are. I would say given your good and excellent insight on E-Sports and the LCS you and myself included are 2 of what could be thousands of people willing to create content about League of Legends. Articles/player movements/interviews/videos etc etc.
    Creating jobs is very... tricky because having too many Indians can require more food per Indian. However if Riot gives people an incentive like " ok we are going to talk about X topic, if you're interested do this blah blah blah and we might higher you to work for us" People are going jump and take advantage of that situation, even more so if the topic could be more opinionated than say actual facts. For example " why did TSM fail at Worlds" ...

Weekly PTL from fans actually gives Riot an ability to see what fans think about certain situations, aka it's sorta like a job interview but without the weird pressure. Instead the pressure is really just a fun topic about League/LCS.
I'm pretty sure Riot can figure out the real intelligent fans and the caring ones who actually gives real responses about certain topics from the idiots who are just dumb and again " Why did TSM fail at Worlds!" Group A. " They noobs gg at 20, later bitches!" Group B. Chemistry/rookie support/ etc etc. It gives news to FANS FROM FANS!!!! It's cut from the same cloth!

I wanted to not skip that part of your topic because I really do think it's a smart idea/answer. However there are a bunch of videos of fans talking about that stuff and they don't really get noticed and after a while they do produce content about that. Why do the work if there is no payoff?

Incentive!

Miror B1 votes

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Sorry I forgot about your " they could not only add a ton of new content but also add a bunch of new jobs if they were to do what would essentially be an off-season weekly PTL roster news show".

  • I agree. Riot listens to people but yet they don't really know how many of us there are. I would say given your good and excellent insight on E-Sports and the LCS you and myself included are 2 of what could be thousands of people willing to create content about League of Legends. Articles/player movements/interviews/videos etc etc.
    Creating jobs is very... tricky because having too many Indians can require more food per Indian. However if Riot gives people an incentive like " ok we are going to talk about X topic, if you're interested do this blah blah blah and we might higher you to work for us" People are going jump and take advantage of that situation, even more so if the topic could be more opinionated than say actual facts. For example " why did TSM fail at Worlds" ...

Weekly PTL from fans actually gives Riot an ability to see what fans think about certain situations, aka it's sorta like a job interview but without the weird pressure. Instead the pressure is really just a fun topic about League/LCS.
I'm pretty sure Riot can figure out the real intelligent fans and the caring ones who actually gives real responses about certain topics from the idiots who are just dumb and again " Why did TSM fail at Worlds!" Group A. " They noobs gg at 20, later bitches!" Group B. Chemistry/rookie support/ etc etc. It gives news to FANS FROM FANS!!!! It's cut from the same cloth!

I wanted to not skip that part of your topic because I really do think it's a smart idea/answer. However there are a bunch of videos of fans talking about that stuff and they don't really get noticed and after a while they do produce content about that. Why do the work if there is no payoff?

Incentive!

See, I think you lost focus on one of my points there. While I did reference "Adding new jobs/content", it'd probably remain restricted to the current lcs casters (like they'd have Riv/all the NA people do PTL during the LCS seasons, but could then expand onto it in the offseason by having some of the part-timers like Azael/Dom Roamer,please to god not the latter as he annoys me almost as bad as phreak does, take over and cover off-season stuff). Then they could potentially add a bigger cast, give fans more things to watch (none of this "once LCS/worlds is over you don't hear from us at all" BS), and could slowly steal some of the "traffic" that goes to sites like espn/thescore to look up all of this info.

As far as fans creating their own content/having rito publish it, doing stuff like that is incredibly tricky both because of the amount of time/effort involved in legal paperwork (the writer usually has to sign a ton of forms that make the piece rito's but giving the writer a loyalty off of it), but also because I don't think they actually want a reading-based element to their stuff sans all the lore that they continuously retweak randomly. That isn't to say that fans shouldn't be inspired to do stuff like this, but if they do they'd probably be better served going to the likes of espn/thescore and potentially getting a job there.

Ultimately, Rito has to add some form of in-depth analysis thing to their LCS stuff before people will at all view it as anything related to a "sport". If you go on the nfl site, they have both statistics of individual teams and literally thousands of articles that allow you to know exactly how/why those stats are important. If you go onto the NHL site, it's clunkier but also gives you an exact idea of this stuff. Until any of this happens, fans will continue to view it as a "video game" and thus won't take it as seriously. It'll essentially be the equivalent of a kid standing on stilts inside of a trench-coat, trying to ride the roller coaster like all the other adults.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

"Video game" I'v told Riot numerous times that they should keep tabs on the LCS player's stats do they... yes but, 1 week during the 2015 NA split they showed the NA All time Kills or Assist leaders however it's no where to be found.( The leaderboard) that is. I asked Riot about not showing the leaderboards in which they gave me no response, so I don't know if it's on a need to know basis? IDK. I would argue having the player's stats is very important in the long run for both player and Riot/League E-sport scene. For example let's say Bjergsen retires before the upcoming split. Would Riot show viewers his all time stats? Most likely but at the same time they don't have anywhere for fans or viewers to find his All-Time stats, it's a messy process you can find his split by split stats but you would need to add up his stats yourself.
Michael Jordan is regarded as the greatest basketball player of all time, why?

  • Most fans will say championships - 6

  • Career stats/Points-rebounds-assists etc etc NBA fans and other sports fans have the luxury to know certain player's stats but not the LCS.

    Having stats to player's names will help Riot making the LCS be less viewed as a game but more so as a actual sport.

  • I personally have done over 70+ NA and EU only player's career stats myself and even sent it to Riot( with no questions asked, no fame, no reward, NOTHING but for them to use it) but I that was close to 2 years ago.

Down below is what I'm talking about.

NAME GP-K-D-A-CS ALTEC 79-353-151-373-26204 AMAZING 128-297-301-809-18439 APHROMOO 182-138-457-1628-4399 APOLLO 88-434-283-741-35013 BALLS 140-373-336-898-35280 BETSY 82-247-227-379-25832 BJERGSEN 196-965-411-1119-60596 CABOCHARD 93-296-213-471-27225 COP 130-581-223-722-39900 CRUMBZ 133-244-422-962-17427 DARDOCH 57-182-139-374-8501 DARSHAN 210-621-556-996-51551 DIAMOND 141-351-403-995-20918 DOUBLELIFT 205-1008-479-1095-64124 DYRUS 148-366-336-984-38049 EDWARD 149-156-444-1373-5311 FEBIVEN 91-369-171-520-28923 FENIX 99-387-224-551-32852 FORGIVEN 89-291-138-467-32682 FOX 91-379-219-444-27915 FREDY 110-188-296-619-31178 FREEZE 84-369-198-463-34558 FROGGEN 197-783-421-1038-66413 HAI 130-451-353-1009-29726 HAUNTZER 96-281-226-596-24012 HUNI 87-395-297-708-2189 HJARNAN 54-242-87-293-17658 HYBRID 54-29-115-432-2232 HYLLISANG 90-46-286-793-2742 IMAQTPIE 112-455-245-645-33039 IMPACT 97-242-237-700-22840 IWILLDOMINATE 95-204-240-711-13003 JANKOS 148-389-321-905-21663 JENSEN 81-353-180-415-26565 KASING 103-81-212-888-3923 KEANE 83-286-201-474-26373 KEITH 65-179-161-240-19570 KIKIS 68-194-174-471-12225 KIWIKID 208-304-648-1444-17371 KREPO 117-117-363-918-3205 LINK 127-478-306-771-34152 LOURLO 61-142-134-347-14486 MASH 174-529-353-774-53855 MATT 60-32-175-528-1521 METEOS 157-382-245-1237-23282 MITHY 90-60-212-833-2889 MR RALLEZ 133-489-244-655-47199 NRATED 129-121-330-1160-3877 NUKE DUCK 122-398-271-638-38663 NYPH 132-116-375-1210-3770 ODDONE 84-179-218-761-10181 ODOAMNE 91-223-210-602-22731 PERKZ 54-204-112-315-16854 PIGLET 59-244-102-322-19204 POWEROFEVIL 87-309-218-383-27449 QUAS 137-329-393-824-35102 REIGNOVER 87-269-222-868-13314 REKKLES 147-650-209-778-51672 RUSH 55-163-151-472-7101 RYU 85-312-171-436-24988 SAINTVICIOUS 82-146-272-729-10318 SCARRA 82-321-227-453-20618 SHIPHTUR 139-519-264-620-41705 SHOOK 123-255-303-821-16723 SNEAKY 184-824-321-1080-54829 SOAZ 211-497-458-1180-49734 SPIRIT 55-143-111-336-9094 STEELBACK 72-319-120-399-24245 STIXXAY 64-214-140-291-19345 TABZZ 114-461-226-562-36640 TRICK 54-170-96-380-8302 VANDER 148-111-276-1109-5062 VIZICSACSI 90-254-266-516-22814 VOYBOY 111-416-310-646-30677 WICKD 126-281-313-775-33487 XMITHIE 186-378-484-1396-28025 XPECAIL 196-150-525-1910-6497 XPEKE 159-696-450-918-47255 YELLOWSTAR 203-281-457-1917-16672 ZVEN 72-300-113-403-24600 XIAOWEIXIAO 62-247-133-372-21887

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