All LCS-1st-2nd-3rd TEAMS(Thoughts)

III BAKURYU III ·Aug 1, 2016·3 votes·1,415 views

NORTH AMERICA ALL NA 3RD TEAM TOP LOURLO TEAM LIQUID JUNGLE REIGNOVER IMMORTALS MID JENSEN CLOUD 9 SUPPORT MATT TEAM LIQUID ADC WILDTURTLE IMMORTALS

ALL NA 2ND TEAM TOP HUN IMMORTALS JUNGLE METEOS CLOUD 9 MID POBELTER IMMORTALS SUPPORT APHROMOO COUNTER LOGIC GAMING ADC SNEAKY CLOUD 9

ALL NA 1ST TEAM TOP HAUNTZER TEAM SOLOMID JUNGLE SVEN TEAM SOLOMID MID BJERGSEN TEAM SOLOMID SUPPORT BIOFROST TEAM SOLOMID ADC DOUBLELIFT TEAM SOLOMID

EUROPE ALL EU 3RD TEAM TOP SOAZ ORIGEN JUNGLE SPIRIT FNATIC MID FEBIVEN FNATIC SUPPORT MIKYX SPLYCE ADC SONSTAR GIANTS

ALL EU 2ND TEAM TOP VIZICSACSI UNICORNS OF LOVE JUNGLE JANKOS H2K MID PERKZ G2 SUPPORT VANDER H2K ADC KOBBE SPLYCE

ALL EU 1ST TEAM TOP ODOAMNE H2K JUNGLE TRICK G2 MID SENCUX SPLYCE SUPPORT MITHY G2 ADC ZVEN G2

Any thoughts ?

11 Comments

anonymous119Aug 1, 20161 votes

I personally would put huni/reignover on first team. Huni might be debatable, but reignover isn't. The guy has just been a beast the entire split.

Aphro has had moments of brilliance and many moments of mediocrity. I don't think he deserves to be on the 2nd team.

This hasn't been a good split for turtle... even 3rd team is debatable.

I am really going to be interested to see the g2/tsm bot lane match up especially with riot killing off lane swapping. It feels like both of those bot lanes are unquestionably the best in their region.

III BAKURYU III Aug 1, 20161 votes

Yeah I was thinking about Huni and Reignover on first team but personally I think Hauntzer just beats out Huni on Top first team. Past splits (Eu-NA) Huni was a monster reason for that was because he would get camped by Reignover and that is how they both would snowball. This split Huni has been on an Island by himslef for the most part and while he hasn't been garbage by any means he just hasn't been the same Huni that I'v seen back in EU. Reignover yeah I was thinking about Sven but I gotta say Sven has impressed me more than Reignover. Reason is mainly because of how much S$it Sven got when he was playing "bad" last split on TSM and to be honest he was actually doing fine. It was really hauntzer that early on during the spring split would get destroyed in lane constantly and that made sven react to fed enemy top laners.

IF I would do a All NA-EU Team only 5 players total 1 per role Reignover would be 100% on the jungler spot for NA but not for this split.

FillyPhlyerzAug 1, 20161 votes

I've watched a lot of EU this split and I've got a few disagreements. Mine would be:

3rd Team: Top: Expect Jungle: Jankos Mid: Perkz ADC: Sonstar Supp: Hustlin

2nd Team: Top: Wunder Jungle: Trashy Mid: Night ADC: Kobbe Supp: Mithy

1st Team: Top: SmittyJ Jungle: Trick Mid: Sencux ADC: Zven Supp: MikyX

III BAKURYU III Aug 1, 20162 votes

I like your picks not going to lie I haven't watched as much EU compared to NA so I will take you EU picks as the right ones XD.

JelubiAug 1, 20161 votes

Yes you could argue that TSM takes 1st in all positions but I would edge Reignover for jungler but Sven is still great right now. And Huni USED to have the edge over Hauntzer but right now this split Hauntzer edges out Huni. The only other debatable position is support but Biofrost doesnt get enough recognition I'm glad you noticed how good he is. Definitely #1 support right now.

1st Team NA Top: Hauntzer Jungle: Reignover Mid: Bjergsen ADC: Doublelift Support: Biofrost

2nd Team NA Top: Huni Jungle: Svenskeren Mid: Pobelter ADC: Sneaky Support: Aphromoo

3rd Team NA Top: Lourlo Jungle: ......Should be Meteos but....by the end of the split Inori was playing better games... Mid: Jensen ADC: Stixxay Support: Adrian

TBakesAug 1, 20161 votes

For NA I would change it a bit:

Top: TSM Hauntzer, IMT Huni, APX Ray

Jun: IMT Reignover, TL Dardoch, P1 Inori

Mid: TSM Bjergsen, C9 Jensen, IMT Pobelter

Bot: TSM Doublelift, C9 Sneaky, IMT Wildturtle

Sup: TSM Biofrost, IMT Adrian, CLG Aphromoo

I know I will probably get flamed for some of these picks, but I chose the players that I think were most fundamental for their respective teams' success this season. For example, I did not include TSM Svenskeren because I believe there were other junglers that directly contributed to their teams' success in a more apparent way, such as Dardoch on Liquid and Inori on Phoenix1. The third slot for support was close for me between Aphromoo and Xpecial, but I chose Aphromoo since his team finished higher in the standings and I know he directly enables the success of his team while Xpecial has Ray and Keane doing a lot of work for Apex. I was tempted to put Froggen in the third slot, because he has been a consistently strong mid laner this split, but Echo Fox did abysmally so it is really hard to justify. I also think Jensen is the scarier mid when he is on his A-game, but Bjergsen is so consistent that it is hard not go give him the top slot.

III BAKURYU III Aug 1, 20162 votes

I chose Sven because each time TSM and IMT faced off Sven pretty much had his way with Reignover. Yes Reignover overall had a more impressive stat line and also had a great split but I think his Spring split and previous splits is just giving him momentum over sven instead of focusing for this split. However Reignover could make a spot for 1st team but doing the teams is no easy task.
Dardoch...... He is a GREAT JUNGLER one of the best however his style is more fit for solo Q nothing more. He only helps the lanes that are winning, now is that smart yes and no. Yes because you need players on team to fight the fed players on enemy team and no because if he is the leader and shotcaller he really has 0 communication and 0 prep to games. Look at every Team Liquid game. Lourlo goes top while Dardoch only ganks for him. Fenix stays mid and just farms. Matt and Fabbyy are bot getting destroyed and Dardoch his strategy for TL is to just gank from river and/or lane.
He doesn't have the IT factor yet and it really showed this split. Not to mention if the story or hype of the week is a jungle match up lets say between Dardoch and Inori, DARDOCH WILL ZONE OUT and pretty much forget about his teammates and that he is playing LCS. He will only think about out jungling the enemy jungler.

Inori is not close to an ALL-Team over Sven. Sven pretty much played as good as a jungler can against not only what was being said as the most competitive split in NA HIstory but he also helped EVERY LANE. Inori yes he is a great jungler but 2 games/1 week is not better than Sven FULL SEASON.

I had Pobelter over Jensen mainly because if you play for IMT everyone expects you to get carried by Huni and Reignover but in reality Pobelter pretty much out MID alot of teams and he also picked up most of the wait of the team and pretty much Carried them for most of the split. Jensen I can see why you would choose him 2nd and POE 3rd.

Biofrost is the 1ST team support 0 questions.
However the next picks are a bit more difficult. Adrain- Yes a great support and I believe he is a 3x NA Assist Leader and not only that but Adrain did it 3 splits in a ROW, never has that been done before in LCS HISTORY. However his playstyle is garbage. Only plays "heal" supports but his main fault is that he's not much of a play maker. All he seems to do is play Soraka for example and hides in the back doing nothing but heal, heal, heal yes it wins him games but ok I can do that. IF I replaced Adrain for LCS you would not notice a difference.

I respect your opinions and Thank you for commenting and Have a Good One !

TBakesAug 1, 20161 votes

I think that's all valid.

To defend the Dardoch/Inori picks, I believe their respective teams are boosted by those players. Sven is more consistent, but I think if you switched him to P1 and put Inori on TSM then TSM would look the same, but P1 would look worse (in my opinion). The same could be said of Dardoch for me. Those two raise the ceiling of their respective teams, whereas I feel Sven has his ceiling raised by having such strong laners. It all depends on the criteria you are using to judge the choices. For example, if you take away Reignover and replace him with Meteos, I think Immortals would look a lot worse. Not that Meteos is a bad jungler, he just doesn't necessarily raise the ceiling of the team he is on. He more or less enforces it. Reignover raises Immortals ceiling and that is why he is #1. Does that make sense?

This is the same reason I justified Jensen over Pobelter. I think that if you switched Pobelter to C9 they look worse. Put Jensen on Immortals and they would look better. This is all hypothetical, but that's how I imagine it.

Adrian's results are a bit skewed because of the meta, I think, too. We will see how the removal of lane swaps effects all of these bot lane duos. However, his style seems to be best for enabling Wildturtle and the rest of Immortals to take risky plays and come out on top. Again, one of those things where he seems to raise the ceiling for his team. I wonder how another support like Aphromoo or even Biofrost would change the dynamic and success of Immortals.

III BAKURYU III Aug 1, 20162 votes

Yeah I understand your logic on the switching players etc as that does make sense but its not really fair when FNC 2015 summer all got voted and won for their respective roles but the same might/could not be the same for TSM. IF I did an ALL NA FIRST TEAM it will look like this (SPRING-SUMMER) TOP HUNI JUNGLE REIGNOVER MID BJERGSEN ADC DOUBLELIFT SUP APHROMOO

 Jensen is a FANTASTIC player 10/10 but it's just the way he plays the reason why I don't have him ahead of Pobelter.  Gets solo Killed each game and when he does die, it's in some of the most random areas on the map.

Not to mention C9 might be the most unselfish team in NA next to CLG-TSM and most of the credit goes to Meteos doing what the team needs to help and in most cases hes the one that starts fights and sets up Penta and kills for Jensen to carry.

It's funny cause if Hai was still on C9/ or if Meteos somehow becomes a great shotcaller like Hai I think if POE went to C9 they would be Scary. POE is what a Call a "follow up" player. He does what you tell him to do and he always seems to get the job done.

Yeah are most likely right and I thank you for the conversation and commenting Thank you and Have a Good One!

    -PS if you could and look on the boards under esports and upvote the 70+ players all time stats I would be most thankful!

III BAKURYU III Aug 4, 20161 votes

"TOP" Ray- Ok I can respect that as he was pretty much the carry for Apex and showed that he can 1v1 anyone while carrying the team.

"JNG" Inori- I don't get it?? Are people only really picking him because he had 1 good game against TSM or something.

Nice picks and Respect them ALL, as we all have our own opinions. Thank you and Have a Good One

Smart KittyAug 3, 20161 votes

NA:

1ST: Top - Hauntzer Jg - Reignover Mid - Bjergsen Adc - Doublelift Sup - Biofrost

2ND: Top - Huni Jg - Svenskeren Mid - Pobelter Adc - Sneaky Sup - Aphromoo

3RD: Top - Lourlo Jg - Meteos Mid - Jensen Adc - LOD Sup - Smoothie

EU: 1ST: Top - Smittyj Jg - Trick Mid - Sencux Adc - Zven Sup - Mithy

2ND: Top - Cabochard Jg - Jankos Mid - Febiven Adc - Kobbe Sup - Hustlin

3RD: Top - Odoamne Jg - Spirit Mid - Night Adc - Rekkles Sup - Mikyx

Honorable Mentions:

Ray, SONSTAR, Vizicsacsi, Trashy, Keane, Dardoch, Froggen

P.S. I didn't get to watch as many EU games this season, so my judgement on their best players is probably lacking. It was also pretty hard to decide on NA's bot lanes other than the 1st one.