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TSM is starting to come off as a bunch of celebrities

Hexs Fortune··7 votes·809 views

They are all talk and they look pretty, but the real players are still in it right now

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xJLx MCHammer5 votes

I think some of the players (mostly DL) try to hype themselves up. They create this image that they are the best. In interviews, instead of being humble and showing some respect, many of them respond with condescending works or phrases. Look at DL's first interview when he came back this split. He basically took the time to **** talk another retired ADC player. Another review that comes in mind is them saying, "we are going to do really good at worlds".

it's the little things that add up over time. Without an international event for a year, those little things just build up. TSM also tends to dominate or be top 2 in their region which only increases the hype.

When the big international event comes up, they don't respect their opponents enough. They looked down at MSF, didn't even think WE was good, and assumed they would dominate their group since there were no Koreans. This is not TSM's fault alone, more so, their fans who believe the little things and let it built up. But I really think the players should be more cautious, reserved, and humble before these huge events.

TwitchInMyPants3 votes

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I think some of the players (mostly DL) try to hype themselves up. They create this image that they are the best. In interviews, instead of being humble and showing some respect, many of them respond with condescending works or phrases. Look at DL's first interview when he came back this split. He basically took the time to **** talk another retired ADC player. Another review that comes in mind is them saying, "we are going to do really good at worlds".

it's the little things that add up over time. Without an international event for a year, those little things just build up. TSM also tends to dominate or be top 2 in their region which only increases the hype.

When the big international event comes up, they don't respect their opponents enough. They looked down at MSF, didn't even think WE was good, and assumed they would dominate their group since there were no Koreans. This is not TSM's fault alone, more so, their fans who believe the little things and let it built up. But I really think the players should be more cautious, reserved, and humble before these huge events.

Honestly it felt like they gave their opponents too much respect if you ask me

They used super passive picks over and over and when push came to shove they played really passive in most of their games, they basically were too used to waiting on their opponents to make mistakes and were scared of making the first play themselves

It may partially be NA being a weaker region and that strategy paying off big in NA but they were often aggressive in splits where I watched them where in worlds they played like they were scared to even move towards the middle of the map. Even though the mentality could be based around playing safe all they did was play predictable and choke themselves to death. There may be some disrepsect in the idea that if they played passive and everyone else played passive they'd win by default, but their gameplay looked incredibly scared to me.

Meritas1 votes

If anything, their fans should hold no expectations at all. Coming from a TSM supporter since Worlds 2011.

tea tìme2 votes

They’ve been celebrities since the days of that CRINGE mini “tv series” basically turning it into reality TV stars. Back then when I mean chaox was still with them.

TSM sucks. Both the coaches and players. Reginald lacks respect, he talks to his players like they’re stupid half the time. The other dude gives them shitty drafts and the players don’t take the game seriously because they don’t give a fuck to PRACTICE ADAPTING.

The only person I like is Bjerg. Biofrost is Alright. DL is a a fucking shitstorm of big talk and it’s rayher humiliating to see that this dude represents NA, Hauntzer is another big shot that talks big and competitively sucks ass. and Sven in one a trick pony with like two champs.

And I’m talking about the comparison between them (being #1 NA team which is a ducking disgrace). I know *i suck more ass than all these players so my opinion doesn’t matter really but judging them based on Korean standards? They’re utter garbage.

I’d rather see C9 represent NA than TSM. And don’t get me started on IMT getting rejected... meanwhile we have Team Liquid to look forward to this year. /s brb while I gauge my eyes out. If TSM sucks ass TL literally sticks their tongue balls up in that anus.

DarkRitual1 votes

Franchising is all about money. Liquid has reliable revenue streams to contribute. Immortals does not.

L2D tyler11 votes

TSM hate thread to get upvote LUL

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

They have no balls honestly. Every International tournament they play safe and super passive, until it's too late and they eventually lose from that style.
Bjergsen goes even(which is great but in the end it's just another " OH, I didn't die to make a play happen and look at my nice KDA etc etc, so I can't be blamed for losing) D-Lift needs to retire, once he started to get pwn in the lane phase(One of his key "strengths" it was over. Sven dies 300 times each game and BioFrost looks like a freaking 4-5 split rookie, can't believe TSM passed up on like 4-5 better supports for him(Madlife, Piccaboo, Ignar) for someone that isn't even near a level of skill from say Lustboy.

0racle09121 votes

I was talking to my manager about worlds ( I know, weird ) and he had an interesting point in their performance this year. We both feel like they're a good team, which they are, but he brought up that they've been too confident in their abilities and skill which lead them to overlook the small mechanics and basics of pro league and that basically resulted in their defeat this year.

Basically, I'll give credit where its due, they are a good team, but ye, they are way too confident and absorbent of the fame imo that is making them lose their touch.

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