RGM brain dump June

RiotL4T3NCY·6/6/2017, 10:18:03 PM·1 votes·22,278 views

Heya guys ^.^/ It's been a while since we did one of these, so the time feels right. :D We want to keep you guys in the loop on general RGM stuff, where we're at with converting old modes to the new client and what's on the horizon for new modes. As always, I'll be around in the comments for the next while to answer any other questions too.


Is it my imagination or Brand + some zombie champs (Sion, Karthus) are nerfed in the current Doom Bots Lv100?

No no, it's not your imagination, we did nerf them for this round. Unfortunately, all 3 of these champions were trivialising what was meant to be a "challenge mode" with the Lv100 Doom Bots, so we had to give them a tweak.

Brand was actually so OP the first time around on Doom Bots, we straight up disabled him. :/ Pre-disable last time, Brand was doing anywhere from 2x to TONS more damage than every other character (one game we saw 60x damage o.O). We capped his passive damage and lowered the radius, so he should be more reasonable now, but not outright break the mode with crazy MaxHP% damage numbers.

The zombie characters (Sion + Karthus) were essentially exploiting a bug with the AI logic and how they react (or don't) to zombie states. We're all for finding creative ways to complete challenge modes, but this was basically cheapening the experience for players who defeated Lv100 the hard way (Urgot go go). We investigated options to reach in and edit bot AI logic, but that was a rabbit-hole that wouldn't have led to a feasible solution in the time we had. We're not super happy with the nerf to be honest (we lowered their zombie-state damage), as it feels like a trap to let you play the champ in Lv100 then 'discover' they're nerfed. Will be reconsidering for next time. :/


Why do you release certain modes so often?

We still aim to build new modes and release them as often as we can to you guys (we just released Blood Moon and Dark Star modes this year). Unfortunately, we can't build a whole Dark Star mode every month though. In between, rather than have nothing at all on the weekends, we bring back some reliable favourites (EG: Ascension & Poro King), so there's still something fun to play when you want a break from the regular game. We feel like this is better than the alternative of nothing at all to play in between each new big mode. For those of you who remember, we actually used to run game modes that way pre-RGM, and it felt pretty quiet for the long stretch between each mode (~3 months at a time). This way, there's still some fun stuff around on the weekends to play with, even if it is something that's been seen before.


Where are the older RGM modes?

We've been steadily building new client compatibility for the more successful older RGM modes (One For All, Hexakill), but #gamedev means it's slow going sometimes. We're also doing this in parallel with building our new modes (EG: Blood Moon & Dark Star). The good news is, we just got the Doom Bots of Doom stood up in new client for patch 7.11! Newer modes are also freebies being built in the new client from scratch, so they are much easier to bring back (Blood Moon is already on PBE right now for 7.12).

On the flipside, there's some older modes we've actually decided not to bring back for various reasons. You can see some below details for why:


Custom Games in RGM modes where?

Custom Games haven't intentionally been disabled for RGM modes, they're just unfortunately not yet enabled in the new client. :( We want Custom Games for RGM modes too, and we're working to get them enabled as soon as we can alongside our other conversion work for older modes. The sooner we get Custom Games back, we can do our Community vs Rioter showdowns on Fridays again. :D

-- L4T3NCY

72 Comments

Star PlatinumELO6/6/2017, 10:25:30 PM6 votes

When it comes to modes like Definitely not Dominion, is it just a thing of it not being built for the new client for it not being back in the rotation yet or was that mode considered a failure in playrate?

Rengooo6/6/2017, 10:46:19 PM5 votes

Not sure if it was a popular mode or not, but I really miss TTL Hexakill, the mayhem was just fantastic!

Danny Cute Body6/6/2017, 11:20:23 PM5 votes

What are your thoughts on possibly leaving all game modes available in custom games? Also could we please have regular urf back? I would rather have the choice to pick what I want to play than leaving it up to whoever gets randomed the better champ. Maybe we could have both urf and arurf at the same time as a solution.

Bloomi6/7/2017, 12:37:27 AM5 votes

PLEASE BRING BACK DOMINION AS A ROTATION GAME MODE, FUCKING PLEASE?

TheLastShadow456/6/2017, 10:27:37 PM4 votes

I feel like you guys lowered their damage too much though.

Grief Me Please6/6/2017, 10:56:21 PM4 votes

Lets get those community vs rioters games going again so i can ban Bard in one for all again ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

Terabyte Marine6/7/2017, 12:17:34 AM3 votes

Dark Star kind of did this, but are there going to be gamemodes with drastically new maps in the future? I think it would be really cool to have an actually gamemode that takes place in a place in the league universe during the release of a champion or event. I think that would tell much more of a story than a few words. I liked dominion mostly for the reason that it was a new place that provided me with more information about Skarner 's background. I could have probably just read a bunch of bios and short stories to understand him, but something about the gamemode felt much more immersive than any story.

Minigame quests are cool and all (Rengar vs Khazix or Lissandra vs Ashe vs Sejuani), but having a whole gamemode or map dedicated to a particular region would be awesome.

RavenHusky6/7/2017, 2:06:14 AM3 votes

Is there any chance that we can get regular, non-random URF mode back at all?

Kokkor6/11/2017, 6:08:44 AM3 votes

I'm URF addict, that gamemode coming out anytime soon? Or are you guys deleting URF and replacing it with ARURF? I mean ARURF is decent but most of the time one team is clearly better than other one and there is no real competition.

Imhotep06/6/2017, 11:07:38 PM3 votes

How do you feel about going back to changing the gamemode every week instead of 2 weeks? I don't actually know if that's the more popular view or not, but I'd certainly enjoy more rotation

Solidair36/6/2017, 10:50:24 PM2 votes

Please bring back Definitely Not Dominion!

KDΛ Shiro6/7/2017, 7:20:00 AM2 votes

I'm just really hoping that One for All comes back soon, because it's my favourite game mode and I'd be so happy to play it again! :D

Deep Terror Nami6/6/2017, 11:01:45 PM2 votes

I was really looking forward to Custom Dark Star matches between Boards Volunteers and the community, so hopefully they are reenabled next time around :3

Angel of Ruin6/7/2017, 9:00:48 AM2 votes

The big question I have is where is ARURF? You guys said that it being made ARURF made it a viable game to show up on the RGM more. But we've seen poro king and ascension several times now, yet no sign of ARURFs return.

xReverie6/8/2017, 7:43:57 AM2 votes

BTW I find Doom Bots gets very old very quickly. I play until I win and then stop playing it until it comes up again (so far, only this fortnight and last October). Wouldn't mind seeing URF some more, say at least 4 times a year, and definitely at Christmas!

SupportMechanics6/7/2017, 12:18:37 AM2 votes

I just wanna know when will you guys put up ARURF next. You guys solved the problem of champ stagnation with making it all random and it was active for a particular patch. Why don't we get it more often?

Spideraxe6/6/2017, 10:32:25 PM2 votes

Hey L4T3NCY can I ask for your thoughts on what might happen to the items from BMB if you guys don't want to bring it back in its existing iteration according to the last Ask Riot, cuz i really liked Staff of Flowing Water

Dabrick016/27/2017, 12:44:31 AM1 votes

Honestly, I just don't understand why you won't admit anything here.

Primarily, I'm gonna talk about URF.

So you replace URF with ARURF, then determine that it's bad and never put it in again? URF was way better than ARURF in every way. We now have ten bans in the client. Let us use them for URF. That way, we can ban the champs we hate and not get stuck with garbage champs while the enemy team gets the god tier ones. It honestly makes no sense why you won't open up about URF. It is THE best gamemode you guys have ever churned out, and nothing has been said.

ShadowParker6/6/2017, 11:15:52 PM1 votes

For Doom Bots of Doom:

Are we unable to select the level of doom or did I just not know how?

What level of doom is the teemoing?

GigaPube6/7/2017, 12:35:48 AM1 votes

ayyyy its not just answers, but PLENTY OF ANSWERS. thank you for this

Melokhy6/7/2017, 10:32:43 AM1 votes

Is there a chance to see mixed modes? Like "Ascended vs BloodMoon" or "Poro King vs Doom Bots"?

Leonerdo6/7/2017, 10:18:24 PM1 votes

Doesn't RGM stand for Random Game Mode? And doesn't that make "RGM modes" redundant?

xReverie6/8/2017, 7:45:48 AM1 votes

Also wouldn't mind an RGM based on classes / subclasses. A random subclass is picked for both teams and you can only play those champs.

WanaBuildSnowMan6/18/2017, 12:34:51 AM1 votes

why you don`t want to give us Ultra Rapid fire please bring it back i miss this mode ANd Thank you :)