"Legend of the Poro King" Q&A with the Play team. 12/19, 11AM - 1PM PST

RiotL4T3NCY··49 votes·215,180 views

Hi Everyone ^.^/

Our latest Featured Game Mode, the “Legend of the Poro King” is now live, and the Play team is here to field any questions or suggestions you guys might have! We make all of the Featured Game Modes, so feel free to ask us anything about Poro King (or any previous modes). Who are your favourite champs to engage with using the Poro Dash? What team comps have the best synergy with the Poro King? Where does the Poro King even go when he’s dispelled!?

We’ll be online from now for 2 hours from 11:00AM ~ 1:00PM PST. For the King!

-L4T3NCY -BuffMePlz -DefaultChar -Ponts

EDIT: Ok we're out guys, thanks for stopping by. See you on the Abyss!

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372 Comments

Dr Clueless PhD19 votes

Totally stole this question from somewhere else on the Boards:

Do Poros have paws or hooves? It's inconsistent in the art.

IronChefBoyardee14 votes

Why does the poro king icon not make my poro into a tiny poro king? What the hell.

Murk Off Da Rip13 votes

What's the average life span of a Poro? Where are they on conservation status and what are we doing to prevent them from going extinct? Can Poros be domesticated and how do I get one? Thanks.

RiotL4T3NCY27 votes

Forever.

I don't think they're going to go extinct anytime soon. Especially when ethereal Shadow Isles versions of them exist. o.O

Maybe if you had some snax?

Siachi9 votes

I know you said that the poro models were exclusive for this mode, but could there be plans to keep these models on the normal Howling Abyss? Like if you were to feed a poro a snack on ARAMs, it would get the model of the icon you have. It's fine if you don't want to, but I'm just curious if it would be possible, programming wise.

As for a gameplay question,** how did the whole design process of this featured game mode come about?** I'm sure "We've got to do something with poros" would have been a primary goal, but how did the idea of different summoner spells and the Poro King come about?

And I'm assuming there will be, but** any plans to have featured gamemode specific summoner spells for the future?** From what I've heard, even without it being poros, a lot of people like using the new summoner spells, and people claim it even lets champions who normally have a hard time on HA thrive, specifically melee champs without much of an engage (Darius and Galio come to mind).

I know there are still people complaining about this mode, but I still liked it a lot! One could argue that being able to pick your champ on the Howling Abyss just leads to a lot of seige/poke comps, but I had fun none-the-less.

Now to wait and see if people ruin this gamemode by constantly begging for it to come back.

(Seriously, the constant URF comments and how 'THIS ISN'T URF SO IT SUCKS' are getting old, and I feel like boycotting URF because of it.)

RiotL4T3NCY8 votes

We've been overwhelmed by the response from everyone on the Poro skins. Glad you guys are enjoying them! They were originally conceived as just a little easter egg to the regular 250RP icons, so we didn't even dream that people might want them on the regular Howling Abyss too. We don't currently have any plans to transfer them over to regular HA after Poro King, but it's something we're going to discuss given the cool feedback from you guys.

The Poro King is a concept we'd been sitting on for quite a while, and felt this was the perfect opportunity to reveal him. The key was how to best express his nature through gameplay. Being a benevolent King, we wanted him to be a defensive, utility boon, rather than doing "tons of damage". We're pretty happy with his current incarnation.

We've seen a lot of players requesting the Poro Toss / Poro Dash spell in regular Howling Abyss. Rather than a Summoner Spell, it could be fun as maybe a new item though. This would preserve the longer cooldown impact design of Summoner Spells (assuming it could be worked into a champion agnostic item). It's not something we have planned though at the moment.

As we've shown in all previous Featured Game Modes, "player perception" of what is strong and the reality is often not 1:1. Just pick whatever you have fun with and go rock it! :D

ExcellionBlade9 votes

Hi Riot! I've got two questions for you guys.

On the Howling Abyss in general, I find that sustain champions such as Sona and Soraka cause a balance problem within both ARAM and Legend of the Poro King. In the latter mode, when I told my team to not ban Sona because I would play her, I've had a very high win rate with her and also obtained my very first Pentakill. My question is, will these champions gain any mode-specific balances?

My second question is will there ever be a chance of a Poro King plushie appearing in the Riot Merch Store? Because I'm already throwing money at my monitor.

Thank you for taking the time to do this Q&A!

RiotBuffMePlz13 votes

We're not planning on doing any champion-specific mode balancing for Legend of the Poro King, though we are monitoring play/win/ban rates to make sure we don't have any super egregious outliers. I can't speak much for Howling Abyss in general, but I would say that champion-specific balancing is probably not the right way to address a class of issues - in this case, sustain being the overbearing mechanic would likely be more indicative that the mechanic needs to be adjusted on ARAM rather than individually adjusting champions for the mode.

We don't have a representative from the merch team here, so I don't know about the Poro King plushie. I want one too. =(

RiotRiotOtown35 votes

I cannot guarantee anything, but I will say that I too would love a plushie King Poro as well... OR a bean bag King Poro that I can watch movies on! RIOT PLZ :D

3laine17 votes

I want the bean bag!

NinjaToad999 votes

Is the poro king the true leader of the Frejlord?

RiotPonts11 votes

I'd follow him. How could you not follow that guy...he's awesome!

RiotRiotOtown10 votes

A leader is chosen by his people... by his poros?

Jerkdil408 votes

Why in Hollowing Abyss there is a suicide poro?

RiotRiot Defaultchar54 votes

Ah, a common misconception.

The poro of which you speak is actually a brave explorer: working diligently to map the chasm of the Howling Abyss, he stares down for almost minutes on end.

Then he gets a bit bored so he waddles away for a power nap.

Z468 votes

According to one of your previous responses, L4T3NCY, you've considered a rotating Featured Game Mode, much like the free champion rotation. Any hints you can drop about that idea that you may be revealing more of in one of your devblogs?

Secondly, now that he's there, when is the Poro King going to become a 10-player raid boss on the Rift or be an available champion for play? If the latter, how high do you think his pick/ban rate will be in competitive play? (There are no wrong answers, but the right answer is 100%.)

RiotL4T3NCY8 votes

Nothing that we can get into just yet. ^_^

Lol @ Poro King Raid boss! :D And when you finally defeat him, you wake up and it was all a dream....

TerraRising6 votes

The game mode makes every champ feel like Lee Sin. Was Lee's Wave-Dash mechanic an initial inspiration for the mode?

RiotBuffMePlz18 votes

While the result ended up being that everybody had a 2500 range Lee Sin Q, it wasn't actually the initial inspiration for the mode. We knew we wanted a the Poro King early on, and we went through several iterations on ways to summon him.

One early (failed) prototype had the Poros follow you in a long conga line, with the killer inheriting all Poros from the victim - at a conga line of X length, the Poro King would be summoned. This led to some very strange gameplay, with players at (X-1) Poros playing super passively, and ultimately didn't feel that different from regular ARAM until someone hit that (X-1) number, when gameplay devolved into the weird holding pattern we saw.

We later had a prototype where the point mechanic happened for getting a kill on a champion while they were "tagged" by a Poro. This proved to be fairly awkward, creating a sort of unclear scenario in which you would want to use the Poro spell - do I cast it for the damage, or should I save it in order to score a point? Additionally, the free long-range summoner spell only further cemented the early dominance that high-poke champions already exhibit on ARAM.

The solution? Change the mechanic into a gap closer, and make a poro hit == a summoning point. Suddenly those low-mobility poke champions are quite a bit less frightening, and throwing Poros was a fun thing you felt like you should be doing frequently. The tagging paradigm to recast was one that players were familiar with (from Lee Sin Q), but changed the gameplay in a way we found quite fun and different. Even though the end result was that everybody is trying their hardest to be Lee Sin (and resolving those difficult mind/body conflicts), it wasn't the initial inspiration - but we can say that we're pretty happy with how it turned out. =)

Fomorian276 votes

Minor QoL change: could the indicator for when you hit someone with a poro be a different color for your target than everyone else? Makes it easier to see which particular target you're about to dash to.

RiotL4T3NCY11 votes

We discussed this and it feels like it would be a good QoL change. If we ever bring Poro King back, this would be on our list of good improvements to make.

not a starburst9 votes

Do you intend to bring Poro King back? On that note, do you have old special gamemodes on storage? That is, could you put, say, One For All back together pretty quickly if we wanted? Do you still have the coding or whatever for it? Or do you not keep track of that?

Aieaman6 votes

why is there no Poro queen?

Birb Mom22 votes

Maybe I am her.

(:

Jabalor5 votes

Did you have other ideas for poro skins?

RiotL4T3NCY35 votes

We did, and I wish we could have done all of them. >_< They were only meant to be an easter egg for the regular 250RP icons though so, we stuck with 5. Some that didn't make it include:

Bilgewater: He had a little pegleg and stubble. Yeah. Arcade: Done in a voxel style. Patchwerk: Sewn together from broken hearts. Bittersweet: He was a little pudding. He was going to jiggle. [jiggle jiggle]

Zedgy29 votes

Do you have any concept art of these floating around that you might be willing to share? :D

Azertazan4 votes

One of my favorite things about the gamemode is the thrill of sniping an enemy with a snowball, or finishing one off with a close range blast. Why do they do true damage, and did you ever consider giving players a bonus for killing an enemy with them?

RiotRiot Defaultchar9 votes

So, just to answer this in two parts:

As a poro cuddle is the closest thing we have to an expression of True Love, doing anything but true damage would be at best questionable.

…From a slightly more mechanical perspective: the poro throw spell’s “original” incarnation (or the closest thing to it) was actually a mode where you had two damaging summoner spells: The Poro Throw, which was basically the spell you have now, and “poro lob”, which we ended up using for Poro King’s friendship barrage. In that one, the throw was doing physical damage, and the lob magic (and we were throwing around ideas for making them scale on AP vs AD, etc.). What we quickly realized however was that one of the spells always felt “weaker”, especially against tanks: I would buy a last whisper, so my throw would be awesome, and my lob would be somewhat meh, or the reverse with Void Staff.

So, to make it feel like it was doing good damage regardless of the target/ your build, we decided to make the throw do true damage once we moved to just having the throw. The full extension of that would have been making it do percentage of max health true damage, but that might have been a bit much :)

As for the second question:

In general, our goal with the poro throw was to make the players feel “I want to throw it as much as possible”, because throwing poros is, in general, fun. Adding an incentive on death somewhat changes the decision making ,and we felt it would have one of two outcomes:

Case 1: If the incentive was very strong (Think Darius Ultimate), players would want to use their poro throw less, and “store it”. Not a bad thing necessarily, but not what we were aiming for. Case 2: If the incentive is weaker (Say, “Get +1 gold”), it wouldn't actually really change your behavior, so would just be additional information that could be a “trap”, as you try to optimize around it even if you shouldn't.

So, basically: We want you to throw poros as much as possible, and were concerned that adding an on-death incentive could move your incentives away from doing so.

Death By Salt4 votes

I love the gamemode, but i have an idea i would love to see happen! It is possible to create a FFA (Free For All)?

RiotPonts7 votes

Can you elaborate a bit on your idea here? Do you mean an arena style mode where there are no teams or something else?

Death By Salt5 votes

I havent really develped any details but i think it would be fun to have no real teams. What i was thinking is a map like crystal scar and have say 5 spawn points, and there are mini jungle camps. The objective could possibly be kills or points. Hoping You guys at Riot can work on it more!

RiotPonts7 votes

Ok. Our first iterations of the Shurima mode turned out to be mostly an arena mode with teams. We found that those games were pretty fun for about 10min and then they felt like they dragged on without clear map objectives.

I'm not sure we'd do anything that got rid of teams all together. League in general is a lot more fun when you can play with your friends and make really awesome coordinated plays against the other team. It's an interesting idea though.

SeexydVanessa4 votes

What language do Poros speak, if they speak some sort of language haha :D

RiotRiotOtown44 votes

The language of love?

Cynthianxt1474 votes

What Kind of Music do the Poros Listen to??? I want to adopt one and both of us listen to AC/DC

RiotL4T3NCY14 votes

I can just see a little poro with cute fluffy headphones on cranking out "Thunderstruck". Some artist somewhere, make this happen!

♪♪ THUNDERSTRUCK!

♪ THUNDERSTRUUUU~~~UUCK!! ♪♪

RiotRiotOtown25 votes

RiotForScience says the Chipmunks - all year round. But a good argument was made for Black Sabbath "I am PORO KING da da da da da da da da da da!" "Has he lost his snack, will he ever get it back!" (I'm literally just typing out what the team is joking about right now - they are mental)

badooga4 votes

How can a poro kill someone? I mean they are a skillshot but how can a cute fuzz ball kill a Zed...

RiotRiot Defaultchar27 votes

Overcome with happiness.

SeexydVanessa3 votes

What champions are Poros friends with, the most?

RiotBuffMePlz21 votes

Poros do not discriminate and love all champions equally.

SeexydVanessa3 votes

If you could have a Poro King as a pet or a normal Poro as a pet, who would you choose? You can only pick one :D

RiotL4T3NCY9 votes

One of those isn't even a choice. The King is no-one's pet. ^_-

SeexydVanessa3 votes

Poros stick their tongue out almost all the time, just like dogs when they're hot. Do they do that randomly because it's cute or are they hot (which is nearly impossible in Freljord) :D

RiotRiotOtown16 votes

Poros consist of all the residual love and warmth left in the world after the many contentions in the Freljord. He is consistently warm - possibly even hot; even while enduring the chilling windstorms in the Howling Abyss.

Rikari1 votes

How did he get soo big and what do his feet look like

RiotRiotOtown8 votes

I can answer your question - Here's one of the original poro studies that we had to do once poro started showing up so many places :D Generally we stylize his little toes into a rounded edge foot, but he's been known in different iterations to have either 3 or 4 toes.

SeexydVanessa3 votes

Are those paws or hooves?

RiotRiotOtown6 votes

It's a softer foot similar to a baby hippo, there's a toe nail, but the foot is flexible :D

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