RGM queue brain dump

RiotL4T3NCY·9/1/2016, 6:48:43 PM·66 votes·27,213 views

Heya guys, been a while since I did one of these. Seems that people enjoy the transparency each time, so here I go again. :D

Why is "Mode X" on every weekend!? Where's "Mode Y"!? We've been keeping a steady 1.5 months between most mode repeats (except for 1 time on Hexakill during Nexus Siege polish, where it came back in 4 weeks instead of the usual 6). We also realise that most of you don't actually think the same mode get's repeated every weekend, but depending on what kind of player you are, it might feel that way. Certain modes do/don't resonate with certain types of players, so if you like the chill of Poro King, but aren't really into the brawls of Ascension/Hexakill, it can feel like a gap between modes "for you".

This is something we haven't figured out a good solution for yet. :/ One option is obviously to switch on all modes all the time, but that would be a disaster for queue health, maintenance, etc. For now, a healthy rotation of as many modes that hit as many player types as possible, combined with us updating older modes (Ascension & Hexakill recently got medium-sized updates), while continuing to add new modes as we go, feels like the best approach.

When is the next "big mode"? Larger scope modes like Nexus Siege take longer to develop than others. We enjoy making them though, and you guys always respond to the extra effort, which feeds back into pumping us up for the next one! :D Given the fuzzy nature of gamedev though, we can't easily say "This day here, it'll be done!" (Random Pose Option plz Jeff :P) as any number of unforeseen things can bork development. Rest assured though, we're committed to continue adding spicy goodness to the RGM in some shape or another.

WTF is ARURF? As the name says, it's All Random URF.

Why did it take so long for URF to come back? In a sense, we haven't even brought back regular URF, it's ARURF for now. Regular URF was stagnating super fast and had some unhealthy play patterns. :/ It was probably one of the hardest hit modes for a 'stagnant meta' whenever it was released. Games quickly devolved into a slideshow of the 'perceived' best champs. Whether or not they were actually OP (hint, they usually weren't :P), seeing the same 20 champs every game got boring REAL fast. :/ It took the RGM team a little longer to convert URF to be All Random, but we believe it could be a much healthier version of the mode. We're hoping you guys have fun with it! :D

Do I get rerolls in ARURF? Yep. We'll be sharing rerolls for ARAM in this first version, but will increase the rate at which you earn them to compensate. Not sure if we want to split them out for the future, but it's something we'd consider.

Why didn't you call it ARRF? That's even what URF says.. you missed like the best opportunity. WTF?! I'm sorry.... I've failed you all. :'(

What about people dodging in ARURF? Similar to Nemesis Draft, we'll probably need to tweak dodge timers to reflect the lack of player agency in champion select. Nemesis Draft's 2hr penalty might be a little steep, but ARAM's 30mins might also be too soft. Something in between could be good here.

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I'll be chilling in here throughout today, feel free ask me anything. ^_^b -- L4T3NCY

225 Comments

Spideraxe9/1/2016, 6:54:49 PM46 votes

If we create a custom game of ARURF can it not be random

AlistarMilking9/1/2016, 7:13:17 PM16 votes

Why hasn't Black Market Brawlers come back yet? It was my favorite mode, I loved the custom minions :(

Ralanr9/1/2016, 6:58:51 PM15 votes

All random ultra rapid fire?

By God. We'll have marksmen without supports. Champions with poor jungle clearing and possibly forgetting smite, and an entire unexisting meta because there is no real control over what you can play.

BEST. IDEA. EVER!!!!!

Master Stache9/1/2016, 6:58:59 PM15 votes

Will this be on Summoner's Rift?

Ruin Lance9/1/2016, 6:50:16 PM13 votes

will champions like teemo still be permanently disabled in ARURF?

invisiblecat19/1/2016, 8:59:01 PM11 votes

Will there be trading, and will all random be like aram or every champion?

Ruy9/1/2016, 7:04:51 PM10 votes

What would happen if you put OFA and URF together?

warpenguin5559/1/2016, 7:23:58 PM8 votes

I have a few questions:

  1. Has the team in charge of RGM's ever considered adding more bans to certain modes or? While some modes dont really need them (Ascension, Nemesis Draft) some modes really would be better with more bans (One For All, maybe Nexus Seige). How about perma banning some champions from certain modes like you did with Karthus and Teemo being permabanned from One For All? Is that something that could happen again in the future?

  2. How likely are the ascension changes to stay? I saw a lot of negative feedback about them and people asking for them to be reverted.

  3. Do modes like Doom Bots, Black Market Brawlers, or Snowdown Showdown have a chance to make a comeback?

  4. Are there any new modes being worked on outside of ARURF currently?

Also I would like to say that I love the work that has been put into Rotating Queue and that I would barely be playing league at all if rotating queue never happened. After online tournaments were removed and my hatred of this seasons balance driving me away from Summoners Rift its nice to have these for fun modes back. And most of them do make me feel better about the game and help me forgive Riot for some of the decisions that I really hated.

Evewynn9/1/2016, 8:21:29 PM7 votes

Will all champs be unlocked for players playing the arurf mode?

LadyRenly9/1/2016, 6:53:56 PM7 votes

I love these brain dumps :D

I just wanted to say L4t3ncy, whoever gave the all clear for all random urf, I WANT TO MARRY THEM!

Cremepie9/1/2016, 7:15:37 PM6 votes

Honestly thank you guys for making ARURF, this will feel a million times more exciting than the super boring meta that usually develops. Even if I get Janna 3 games in a row from painful RNG I'll gladly accept it, as I wont have to see a fizz or Nidalee or EVE every game.

Reikken9/1/2016, 7:06:15 PM5 votes

any plans to make Nexus Siege's obliterator more useful against experienced players? In my experience last time, especially near the end, people were mostly just ignoring it, grouping up 5 in one lane. Especially since you can put all your siege weapons in the jungle, where no amount of coordination and timing will let the obliterator help you contest them.

SSShutTheDuckUp9/1/2016, 9:27:38 PM5 votes

Just my 2 cents:

I would like to still see a banning phase in the new AR urf. I imagine sth like all 10 people ban at the same time (similar to blind pick) for something like 10-15 secinds. ANd is a player do not ban - it is ok, the queue goes on. Seeingthe most annoying champions in URF mode: Blitzcrank Evelynn Ezreal Fizz Kassadin Alistar Ekko Hecarim Maokai Sona Zed MonkeyKing Leblanc - there is a high probability in most of the games w still see 2-3 of them (having in mind re-rolls). being all-random is nice, but having a few banned champions would contribute even more, IMHO.

Second: according OFA mode - I would love to see "majority wins" rule to be removed. It makes zero sense, as every vote should count for 20%/25%/33%/50%, depending on how many players vote. Me as a solo player, having to mandatory play whatever-the-premades-I-am stuck-with decide becomes pretty annoying pretty fast.

Mistress Shyvana9/1/2016, 9:47:21 PM5 votes

Speaking of URF, since its ARURF now is there any way for us to get traditional URF as a custom game mode/setting for Custom games?

Carnicore9/1/2016, 7:58:02 PM4 votes

Your brain takes pretty good dumps :D

Very Hard Engage9/1/2016, 7:11:22 PM3 votes

urf was never meant to be balanced, just fun.

thats why it was an april fools day event. anything goes.

for the same exact reason ARAM only accounts are allowed to exist in the first place, and can never be a balanced game mode. certain champs will always be better at split pushing, others are always better for 5v5 team fights.

you cant make "ARURF" balanced either, theres no buff discrepancy and some will always be better suited with dirt cooldowns than others.

Windup Orianna9/1/2016, 8:18:36 PM3 votes

Listen, Riot, I love y'all and imma let you finish but the get the hell outta here with that "they usually weren't" bullshit.

Bultz9/1/2016, 8:23:01 PM2 votes

Your changing Urf to random champions? That's the very reason I don't play arma.... Guess that is another mode I will be skipping.

ImDumnezeu9/1/2016, 8:09:55 PM2 votes

Why not normal URF?

PixTron9/2/2016, 6:56:44 AM1 votes

Now it's just "Whoever gets the random Yasuo and/or Zed wins," making it an even more luck-based gamemode.

GG Riot.