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Patch Chat with the Playtest Team - 6.20, Ivern release

RiotAesah·10/5/2016, 6:04:03 PM·1 votes·71,008 views

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Hey guys! Welcome to Patch Chat, a Dev Corner thread we make to talk about our new patches every two weeks: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-620-notes

I'm Aesah on Riot's Playtest Team, a group of Diamond+ players who play with the new champions, reworks, balance tweaks, items, and map updates before they are released. It's our job to the test the changes that our designers come up with and ensure that we're introducing positive changes to LoL in terms of both balance and fun. We'll be watching this thread to answer as many questions as we can.

The big thing for patch 6.20 is the release of Ivern, the Green Father. Ivern is a supportive jungler who excels at enabling juggernauts with his Q as well as protecting his carries with shields and brush. Ivern has an extremely unique playstyle so we're expecting it to take some time before players figure him out, but we'll be watching his performance closely. As for the rest of the cast, Ashe, Cho'gath, and Vladimir received some game-health changes we expect to be relatively power neutral while Nunu and Taliyah were buffed and Jinx got a small nerf.

All of us on the Playtest Team are avid gamers so feel free to talk to us as fellow LoL players!

Adam "Afic" Cohen Ben “Cezium” Burkhardt Shawn “I Am The IRS” Currie Don “Aesah” Ding Nicolas “Gleeb” Haddad Dan “penguin” Hardison Miles “Daydreamin” Hoard Bao “Bao” Lam Robert “ROBERTxLEE” Lee Nicholas “Nickwu” Smith Blake “S0be” Soberanis Trevor “ThEntropist” Thernes

157 Comments

Utility Veigar10/5/2016, 6:33:59 PM17 votes

Any changes to Heimer? He seems to have been forgotten. And speaking of turrets, any changes on Ohmwrecker? That's also floating around.

FAR CRY DREAM10/5/2016, 7:41:45 PM6 votes

Well, hope you guys doing well. I just came by to say thank you for a champion like Ivern with the kind of theme I like. Never was a jungler but I think I'll start learning Jungle with Ivern now.

The12thman9410/5/2016, 6:08:14 PM5 votes

Rengar obviously synergizes well with Ivern, but is there any fun interactions that you guys have found that may not be immediate thought about?

warpenguin55510/5/2016, 6:11:40 PM4 votes

How is the LeBlanc rework? It's the one I'm the most excited for out of all the assassins.

Dark Star Cho10/6/2016, 2:47:30 AM3 votes

Anyone going to address how these cho nerfs made it to live without the promised compensation? Will he be playable before the end of the season?

EROTIC RAID BOSS10/5/2016, 8:47:44 PM3 votes

What do you guys build on Ivern? I was kinda torn between jungle items, as well as whether or not ardent censer could be good on him

SaikoticKind10/13/2016, 10:13:06 AM2 votes

In my mind I kinda want master yi to be completely reworked...I mean hes not exactly balanced and even though most champs arent ( Katarina Illaoi Irelia Fizz Fiora Malzahar ) yi has been broken for a while, the only thing to counter him is cc, but you have to realize that cc counters everyone. Its not too much fun playing against plat lvl players who main yi. Its no fun having yi in the game sometimes

Tanzil10/5/2016, 8:03:36 PM2 votes

What are some interesting tricks were you guys thinking about when playing Irving? Would it be possible to jungle botside and get lv 3, leaving your ADC to 2v1 in the early game? (letting your jungle clear top and get an early lv 3 gank on top/mid)?

QLerin10/5/2016, 8:14:16 PM2 votes

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Lobster0710/5/2016, 8:27:20 PM2 votes

I thought Ashe was going to make it to the Worlds FInals, but rito hates her :(

Mysticman8910/5/2016, 9:06:24 PM1 votes

Do you think Ivern will primarily end up being played as support or primarily as jungle (or even elsewhere)?

Has there been concerns with troll iverns intentionally providing brush to aid the enemy being an issue? Bard ult for example gets a lot of flak since it can very actively hinder allies, but it's at least tied up in an ultimate, but I could imagine bushes being placed to obscure vision that the allied team would actually want to have and/or giving the enemies brush to hide in instead.

La Bello10/5/2016, 8:44:03 PM1 votes

Couple Questions

  1. When is Teambuilder coming back if ever?

  2. Why change Nunu in a way like this? this isnt adding any sort of meaningful interaction or counterplay to him its essiently just turned him into a ball of stats who gets away with greedier builds (Which is something Riot doesnt like). Nunu is already a champion that is unfun to play against in most cases most fun felt from playing Nunu comes from the satisfaction of denying the other team fun and sowing suffering so why actually buff Nunu as opposed to sweeping under the rug until his eventual rework (ala the Old yorick ,Aatrox Tryndamere Kalista treatment) he doesn't any sort of interesting dynamic to teamfights and really only has 1 skill in most skirmishes.

3.Will the changes to Flat pen also effect Runes?

9 Alexandru 910/6/2016, 5:06:17 PM1 votes

you guys know that now with this patch riven can combo ultrafast

Slyssa10/6/2016, 6:33:29 PM1 votes

So i was wondering if the synergy between Mordekaiser and Ivern was intentional. Despite Iverns bad laning, if Ivern lands a Q and Morde is ready he can go ham on the adc or squishy support then a E from Ivern and a W from Morde getting some tankiness and extra damage. Morde hitting hit 3 from Q and an E from morde is alot of damage. if one of them isnt dead they are certainly pushed out of lane. And lvl 6 it gets better. Morde and Ivern can solo dragon and or counter jungle the bottom side. Idk about you guys but i thought if i saw a Morde and his pet Dragon with Ivern and his Pet Golem (daisy) basicaly a 4v2 in bot lane im thinking Oh shit RIOT PLEASE HELP because you made Mordekaiser Viable again. Also if you guys didnt notice yet i certainly did Ivern takes towers down super fast like jinx fast his W passive damage make a bush by the turret get your extra damage go ham on turret....................buddy and i did a custom game ivern v ivern with same bots either side all intermediate. I noticed when i snuck into my buddies base and took down 2 inhibs and spent i think 5 secs taking down 1 inhib and about the same at the next probably faster if you have daisy too anyway. was just curious about the synergy and if you all from riot had designed a support specificaly tailored for Mordekaiser or if it was a complete accident.

DrPapillon10/5/2016, 7:42:56 PM1 votes

Please don't make Leblanc non-counter-able when you rework her and the assassins, right now it seems the only counter is stay away from her