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Ranked Changes - Week One Update & Known Issues

RiotRiot SapMagic·12/7/2018, 2:33:16 AM·1 votes·125,877 views

Hey everyone, Ed “SapMagic” Altorfer here on behalf of the Ranked team. This week, we started rolling out the first batch of Ranked changes to live. It can be disruptive whenever we make large changes to the game, but Preseason gives us some downtime to work out major issues before we kick off the season for real in January. Today, I want to give you a quick update on how things are going and what issues we’re currently looking into.

 

##Master+ Tier Locking Grandmaster and Challenger became locked with the patch as intended, but we experienced delays in setting all Master players to 0 LP.

Status: Fixed

##Issues with LP Gains/Losses Some players experienced unexpectedly high or low LP gains and losses after the patch, which could have resulted from the changes we made to tiers and divisions. We made some changes we think will help, but we’re watching how things settle, so please keep reporting issues.

Edit: We are still seeing issues with high LP losses and low LP gains for some players. We are currently investigating.

Status: In Progress

##Low Placements for New Players Some of these issues may be related to the issues we experienced with LP gains and losses. I also want to clarify the intended behavior for placements since it’s changing:

  • If your account has never played a game in a particular Ranked queue, your initial rank after one game will be in Iron. You can climb higher throughout placements by winning games.
  • If your account has played Ranked in the past, we’ll seed you lower after your initial game so you can settle into your climb and have the chance to prove your skill. This is similar to how the system worked previously, but you only saw your rank after 10 games. Whereas now you’re seeing an initial rank after one, meaning it’s a bit lower than you might expect.

Edit: We're still seeing placement issues specifically for players who did not play in Season 2018 but DID play in previous seasons and we're investigating them.

Status: In Progress

##UI Bugs In a few places, players have reported confusing or broken UI elements:

  • [Fixed] Players were not seeing LP gains and losses on the scoreboard
  • [In Progress] The profile tooltip displaying past rank is incorrect for some players
  • [In Progress] The profile tooltip currently says “Past Highest Rank” - we’re planning to change it to reflect what it is: your highest ending rank of all queues from the previous season
  • [Not Started] When clicking a different player on the ladder on the Ranked dashboard the summoner name is not displayed

  If you’re seeing other issues that aren’t captured here or you just have feedback about how things are going so far, feel free to hit us up in the comments below. We’ll provide additional updates as we have more information about these (and other) issues in the coming weeks. Thanks for all your help and feedback, and we’ll see you on the Rift!

35 Comments

AngryLuck12/7/2018, 8:07:43 AM11 votes

I can't queue with my friend anymore, even tho we are 3 divisions apart after dia 5 was removed. I'm plat 2, and he's dia 3. Before the update I could play with him when he was dia 4, so I should be able to play with him now :/

xxxDogmanxxx12/7/2018, 3:28:23 AM7 votes

Hey, can you please check Nocturne Ult while you're at it. Nocturne Ult is currently sending Nocturne to the target's original location when the Ult was cast, not their current location. Nocturne isn't following his target but instead lands where they were, wasting the Ult and doing no damage.

Also, there's seems to be an occasional graphical bug with Xin Zhao where his E does damage normally, but his character model is delayed in jumping.

6eZ6J2DnvI12/7/2018, 7:05:08 AM7 votes

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##Low Placements for New Players Some of these issues may be related to the issues we experienced with LP gains and losses. I also want to clarify the intended behavior for placements since it’s changing:

  • If your account has never played a game in a particular Ranked queue, your initial rank after one game will be in Iron. You can climb higher throughout placements by winning games.
  • If your account has played Ranked in the past, we’ll seed you lower after your initial game so you can settle into your climb and have the chance to prove your skill. This is similar to how the system worked previously, but you only saw your rank after 10 games. Whereas now you’re seeing an initial rank after one, meaning it’s a bit lower than you might expect.

Status: Monitoring

I won all 10 placements on my smurf, got placed in Iron I but have to play against plat 2 and dia 4 enemies. This is for sure a bug? How am I supposed to climb like that?

RGM Player12/7/2018, 4:45:37 AM5 votes

If your account has never played a game in a particular Ranked queue, your initial rank after one game will be in Iron. You can climb higher throughout placements by winning games.

I think this thing should be applied only to new players. I'm playing League from 3-4 years, in season 6 I did the placement and I was placed B2, since there I never played ranked. But honestly I can say that in these years my knowledge of the game improved a lot, in normals usually the system match me with high silver-Plat. Yesterday, for curiosity, I did one ranked game in Flex and in soloq to see what rank the system will give me and I got Iron IV in both queue(I lost the flex and won the soloq).

The only thing I can do in Iron IV is just ruin other players experience, because in that rank there will be new players that don't have a lot of knowledge of the game. I don't play rankeds, I don't like the atmosphere that is there, so I will not ruin new players experience, but you should consider this problem.

Sorry for my English.

Mythologiaˆs End12/9/2018, 1:38:21 AM4 votes

Fix something please, I don't wanna play Plat games in iron when the season starts

EarthamOs12/8/2018, 6:25:20 AM3 votes

Something needs to change. I placed iron 4 and all my games im gaining 30 lp but playing with golds and plats...which is what I normally am..so its not the easiest to climb in my own elo while on a iron account. Pretty unfair.

Linna Excel12/7/2018, 1:47:32 PM3 votes

Something I never understood is why people always lost elo in a new season, especially if they proved that they had it at the end of the previous season. It seems an unnecessary hassle.

coolguy1412/13/2018, 10:15:43 AM2 votes

I started playing this account as a smurf but off role a couple of days before div 5 being taken out, before the update I was gaining around 20-23lp per win and losing around 15 or so but after div 5 was taken out and I was put up to div 4 which I then started gaining 12lp per win and losing 23lp per loss.

This is still happening to me, I've played so many games and win streaked quite often and am only gaining 15-16 lp now and still losing 22ish lp..

Will there be any type of compensation for this in the way of extra lp gain? Or is it really just not worth playing ranked at all?

Also I know opgg is not completely accurate about showing your account MMR but it says my MMR is around silver 1 when I'm silver 3 now, so it doesn't make sense to me that I'm still gaining next to no lp. Even if my MMR was only 1 division higher shouldn't the lp gain be a little bit better than it is?

xMiliana12/11/2018, 6:43:25 PM2 votes

Something seems to be wrong with my MMR... http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=xMiliana If you look at my op.gg profile I'm winning almost all my games and I frequently am getting S grades/MVP on my ranked games. Despite that, I am still getting 13 LP per game... please fix

Lympha12/20/2018, 3:10:38 PM1 votes

Since this change the percentage of smurfs in my game exploded (mid gold elo). And to be honest its frustrating

lilMissBratty12/30/2018, 6:21:05 PM1 votes

Although my subject I want to address has nothing to do with yours, I've been trying for years to get to someone in your department, your position. I have been playing league for six years,and my experience with the ranked system has been terrible. I have posted forums as suggested by a riot support person on a ticket I started on this matter,which got deleted. All I want to say and bring up is, there needs to be more time spent in the game rather than someone hitting level 30 and going into ranked,and getting matched with people that have been playing for years. I have been told and showed pictures when you could see wins, how a person with 300 wins is matched with people with 1500 wins. This points out that one person has spent time IN THE GAME. This should be the focus,not MMR that isn't matched up correctly AT ALL. I've dealt with people saying "Oh this is my first ranked". An article posted on Google also stated how there was a and I quote "We also noticed that we were missing the mark in terms of milestones and goals, especially at Bronze, Silver, and Diamond, where you can improve substantially in terms of MMR without ranking up." You guys were definitely missing it. I only bring this up because I care. I also hope to see the punishment become more strict. The link below is the article on the statement made on ranked. I am happy to hear that it was at least noticed. This is a suggestion,and hope to see better match ups in this coming year,and not so much frustration. :) https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2018/04/dev-updates-to-ranked-for-2019/

Praise God Amen1/15/2019, 7:09:19 AM1 votes

in my humble opinion, this is the dumbest thing Riot has ever done. new players start in Iron. that is the most upsetting thing! just fyi, i'm strongly considering never playing this game ever again because of this fucking idiotic idea. whoever though of this idea should be slapped in the face, then fired on the spot. League is no fun playing with shit teammates, and now everyone starts out in the shittiest tier there is.... two words... FUCK YOU RIOT

dragource1/25/2019, 5:01:28 PM1 votes

Currently unable to solo/duo or flex que with friends whom are unranked. I am also unranked in flex que.

Ekko20141/26/2019, 11:00:17 PM1 votes

I got placed in plat 1 then i lost 4 games and got demoted to bronze 2 pls fix

prodigal dog12/7/2018, 4:34:52 AM1 votes

Will I get any lpnfor the games I played and won. I would have entered and won my promos but hadn't realized that I would receive no lp. Why wasn't ranked turned off while you looked for a fix if there will be no compensation?

rtbf22561824112/7/2018, 12:02:27 PM1 votes

One thing you should address is that Past Highest Rank should actually show my past highest rank...well even if it's just whatever i ended with.

Right now it shows Unranked yet i was Platinum when the Season ended. I wasn't Honor 2 but something like this is pure false information and shouldn't be tied to Honor level.

iZno112/7/2018, 1:49:38 PM1 votes

I couldn't play DuoQ with my friend being in placement matches, cuz' he's referred as Iron as you mentionned for "new players" (and i'm gold). However it seems to me it could be possible before, cuz' his rank wouldn't be known before his 10 placements matches.

DrPimpyDaddy96612/7/2018, 9:44:18 PM1 votes

I was 6-1 in placements so far this preseason, after update was placed in iron 4. Lol king had predicted i would place in silver 3

Banged Ella IRL12/8/2018, 4:26:38 PM1 votes

Highest past rank always shows X Tier 1 (Gold 1, Plat1, Silver1 etc)

KleanKill12/10/2018, 2:09:54 AM1 votes

I missed all of Season 8, but placed Plat in Season 7. After my first game which was a win I was placed into Iron 4. Couple games in with a ~50% Winrate im playing against high golds and plats but Im still showing as Iron and wins occasionally move me up a tier. Either way I dont know why Im "Iron" playing with plats and gaining MMR at such a slow pace.

Dirty Harry12/11/2018, 12:16:49 AM1 votes

Ranked games after patch are really buuged right now. Been playing ranked games since S4 on 2 different accounts and never won less than 18 LP and lost more than 17. Before last week patch I was :

  • S4 on this account on a 8 Winnning streak
  • Reached promotion game winning +21 to +23 LP per game and my last loss before winning streak was - 15 LP
  • Won 2 games in BO and went S3.

Patch comes out

  • Won 4 games in a row winning only +13 LP (I have never ever earned that low score LP in 4 seasons with 2 accounts)
  • Lost 3 games in a row losing -23 LP (never ever lost that much LP in 4 seasons with 2 accounts)

Can Riot tell me how winning an avg of 22 LP & losing an avg of 15 LP before patch, I then win and avg of 13 LP and lose an avg of 23 LP, hitting LP scores I never saw in 4 seasons playing more than 450 ranked games per season ???

I am really interested in reading your awnser.

Regards

shontie12/12/2018, 5:51:27 PM1 votes

10-0 iron 1 😁😁😁😁 on new account. I think new account is wasted time and money for skins etc. Bronze silver gold players will never climb at start of the season if on one team you will have 2 diamond players and on the other 1 diamond. + I think this ranked system benefit more boosters. Pay to climb. 🤣 I can't wait and see what will happen then the season starts.

NoboobsbutAxes 12/7/2018, 8:48:06 AM

Before yesterday I am silver 5 and normaly I got silver 4 but I am demote bronze 1 and loose lp on win Riot give me back silver 4 or no? summoner 4