Odd Placements in Flex

RiotRiot Socrates··1 votes·73,612 views

Hey all,

We are aware of the issues with match quality and odd placements in flex. We have put a short term fix in place that should fix some but not all players MMRs. Unfortunately, to fix all players MMRs and correct the issue that's causing players to be seeded incorrectly will require a downtime event.

We are working through the best way to roll this fix out and you can expect additional details in the coming week.

292 Comments

Marvals25 votes

for those who already are place in a div , like me , i played vs diamonds , lost , and finished 5-5 placed on bronze 1 beeing plat in solo/duoq?

Flondorel9 votes

Season 6 i was gold, i played 10 games in flex q and i got 5w5l and i got placed bronze 3... this is not normal...

Ars Arcánum1 votes

same exact situation as you.

Rammus Haradinaj1 votes

Same here

Me0wstic1 votes

same for me

Mr Pan1 votes

I was Gold III in Season 6 and was placed Gold III after going 8-2 in my promos??? What even is this

The art of Tilt5 votes

that is actually what you should expect, still a reset after all

Xonra7 votes

Had ( have) a friend who was in the same ranking as me, went 3-7 to my 4-6 and he somehow placed a division higher than me.

The placements seem entirely random.

Like the guy (who has proof with pictures) that he went 10-0 and was challenger on the Turkish server, and somehow ended in Bronze 5.

The placements let alone the placement games seem completely random and pointless.

sethlin2 votes

If it is anything like last seasons the first 5 matches impact your rating more than the last 5, so his 3 early wins could be bigger than your 4 later.

The main issue is that every season they purposely reset people lower and lower making it harder to climb with more randomness.

Please dont start the new season with placements this retarded. Thx

DeathBurst2 votes

The main issue is that every season they purposely reset people lower and lower making it harder to climb with more randomness.

Bullshit. If you deserve to be higher, you'll climb, maybe it will take a week or two longer if there are a lot of people like you in the opposing team, but that's negligible. Plus, source about the reset being less soft every year?

Please dont start the new season with placements this retarded. Thx

Duh, I mean, that's like the whole point of OP... "Don't worry, there is a problem right now, the new season won't be as bad as the current situation."

nargnargnarg1 votes

MMR is still fucked up after placements. Had a challenger player on my team was gold 3 last season.

DeathBurst5 votes

OP was saying that they will restore the MMR of everyone affected with the next downtime. Did you guys even read it beyond the title before starting to complain?

D1VINITY2 votes

Well season 6 i was plat 5 won 5-5 and got placed in bronze 2. feelsbadman

GravySlayer6 votes

Diamond at the end of season, went 6-4 in placements. placed bronze 1... are you fucking kidding riot???

Goldorgh5 votes

Thanks for the update !

Latex Choker5 votes

I don't mind getting placed lower than where I ended, but when I have matches like:

Plat 4 (Me), Plat 1, Gold 3, Silver 1, Gold 5

VS

Dia 4, Dia 5, Plat 1, Plat 2, Plat 4

It kills any desire to play this queue, Ill just stick to normal draft till Solo Queue comes out.

RedHat217 votes

*Cries in EUNE

Packun Flower4 votes

They aren't going to take responsibility for this screw up I hope you all realize that.

When their "Long term fix" is ready and applied a red is going to either come to this thread or make a new one and basically say "Welp we fixed it but we can't help those already affected by the error as the system is designed so we cant tamper with it. To all those who were effected by the error on our end, sorry, just deal with it"

I'd put money on it.

TIMEGATE4 votes

Just got a Diamond LeBlanc as a B1 player after playing with golds and plats all day. Yeah.. this could use some work

Marsu4 votes

I went from diamond 5 to silver 1 by going 5 - 5 i only play support and i get macthed with silver 3 adc's. How am i supposed to have synergy with him? It is not even his fault, he doesnt have to know how to push lane level 1 - 2 but if the enemy diamond duo Bot isn't completly boosted they will abuse him hard :(

FeelsBadMan

intersht4 votes

Flex is broken, drafts are disabled, blinds are cancer... What are we supposed to play now? Arams?

AshuraGates3 votes

Arams are full of Bots, so...

It´s time to go outside and make friends.

Baobab Tree4 votes

Imho you should close the flexQ, reset the elo gained in that Q, then restart with the 10 placement matches. Even if this will close the ranks for weeks. Actually the qualitiy of the games is so poor cause people coming from different divisions (even plats with bronzes) are playing in the same match starting from flex's bronze4. Personally, as a support main, it was a pain during the placements play with silver adc who didn't know how to position themselves ignoring all team pings c:

Oko the Broko4 votes

Fixing the rank where you were placed it's ok but not even close to fix the true value of placements. What are you Riot gonna do about those games, me and many like me lost, because we play main support and get matched with a bronze 2 adc, against a team with 2 plat, or even higher, players? Hey... even gold players sh*t on any bronze adc. It is a lost game, but it could be way diferent if we were good matchmaked.

There is only one solution to this whole Flex Q Rank. After you are sure the matchmaking is fixed, you should do a full reset to Flex Q. And i hope we dont get this same problem on Solo/Duo Q.

SpectreXC4 votes

new fix , didnt fix anything i got placed b2 paying with plats golds and after the fix i got demoted to b5 and i won 6/10 placements with high gold plats... seems legit i wonder .. if i had lost 10/10 placements vs bronze players would the game automatically delete itself of my pc ?

PoofAnton3 votes

I originally went 7/10 vs gold to get b4, played 1 more game that I won(8/11) and I got bronze 5

Wolf of Pride4 votes

The state of the flex que when it was released was a joke to be blunt with you Riot. How thoroughly did you guys test the platform before releasing it at the start of the year? The lack of forethought and mismanagement of the new flex que reflects on your end a gross dereliction of your duty to your community.

Last years Dynamic que "experiment" not only angered your community, as a whole the company did not own up to the mistake of changing system, until much later when it was becoming clear that your goals were not tenable and you conceded to change the Dynamic midway, but ultimately the whole thing ended in failure and you were forced to remove it completely. But right after that train wreck, we get the Flex Que debacle, which was an even bigger failure and it has only been out for a week....

These slew of misteps with regards to your managing the ranked system was not only poorly executed, it was incredibly sloppy. The fix for the problem should then address the problem in its entirety. A complete reset of EVERYONE's placements, make it so this nightmare ends and never happens ever again.

illusional3 votes

But like... where is solo queue?

Rishino7 votes

PRESEASON SOLOQ will be back at dec 8, chill

illusional2 votes

riot said solo queue would be coming in under a week after the pre season start im just wondering if they are still sticking to what they said

DrCyanide12 votes

Yes, and Flex Queue has been live how long? Two days? Three? Get impatient after a week is up, not before.

CDMEHUL3 votes

Will there be a full reset for flex at the beggining of season 7 to set this right?

intercourse3 votes

i go 5/5 vs diamonds/plats/ a master player and i get placed in silver. when im d5 wtf?

CarryMeImTired3 votes

whats going to happen to people who where placed ? i went 5 and 5 against diamonds and plats almost everygame , and i got b2 , really dont thinks thats well fair. its really broken, you guys do this everytime you mess with ranked , everytime u fix it so its decent u make it worst and not worst for everyone u make it worse for the low elo players that dont stand a chance against the high elo players. i watched hours of streams where bronze ,silver and gold players just getting shit on game after game by diamond and up players. all i want is for you to please for the love of good fix this shit , reset again and let people redo their placements so we get proper games and a proper rank. rito please just do something thats for the average player and not for the high elo players and pros. the majority of the game is low elo players help us out , make the game fun again. #MakeLeagueGreatAgain no memes no troll help the low elo guys and gals out fix the dam ranked system .item 3070 item 3070

Selyn Kisaragi3 votes

Diamond here, after 7 wins= bronce.

GG RITO

morlock4353 votes

i got placed in bronze 1.... and i've been diamond 2 seasons in a row.

Anastaecia3 votes

Since everything is so messed up, why hasn't ranked play been pulled for the time being. I mean, telling us a temp fix has solved some of the problem doesn't really say much. Will there be a soft reset, a hard reset, any reset? Is flex just screwed this season? How about some real info so we don't waste time playing ranked if it has no meaning atm?

50ShadesOfBlacks3 votes

ok im not mad in just confused. i went 8 and 2 in promos and you guys placed me in plat 2 ok whatever. then i presead to not lose a single game getting 12 lp a game and won my promos to plat 1 without any loses, then after i win them you place me back a entire divison into gold 3...... im 18 and 4 and solo carry almost every game. like i dont understand why u put me into gold again after i just proved i could climb out of plat with shitty mmr but uhhh you do u riot

One Kinky Lad3 votes

You fucked it.

biubiubiub01233 votes

What the heck!I'm silver 4 in solo but tried flex and went 8-2 before "fix" and got silver 1 but after "fix" today I get 8-2 again but BRONZE 1.I'm done.

chaosknightorphi2 votes

I went 8/2 in placements winning against mostly gold silver and one or two plat players and got placed bronze 5 soo idk these placements are weird a few friends of mine are livid about it and some have stopped playing because of their placements

piueeingo1 votes

Season 6, I'm bronze 2 rn. (ik it sad) but recently I played 10 game of flex with 7w and 3l. But then got place on bronze 4..... I was planning on actually doing rank this year but then I got demoted for a positive streak. Is this accurate?

Pacothegint3 votes

You will always get placed lower than the season before

21028037DEL13 votes

I was Plat 2 last season.

Finished placements 3-7 (this is the life of a support main. I was always [see: every. single. game.] given teammates who were either gold 4 or below in every game. I even had Bronze teammates in some games with Diamond/Plat on the opposing team.

I was just placed in Bronze II.

Won't be playing anymore Flex queue until Solo comes out so I can do new placements because if you think I'm actually going to continue to play League of Legends after getting placed three entire tiers below my previous rank, Riot is kidding themselves.

Just Blame Jenny2 votes

I know the feels.

Support main here, went 4-6. I won't say I played perfectly in all my matches, and fully own up to the fact that I could've done better.

Granted I was only silver last season, but demoting to bronze v seemed quite harsh!

SinisterJ1 votes

S6 was s3, only 40 games or so, around 70% winrate. played placements went 6-4, got s4... XD?

Narí5 votes

? That is exactly normal rofl

Venedictos3 votes

It might actually be a bit lucky on his side, I'd expect to place in S5 or B1 with a 6-4 record

CJ FTW1 votes

Pretty freaking mad about these placements. Diamonds and Plats in EVERY game and i'm a lowly gold 5 in solo q. So i go 6-4 and I'm silver 4? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Kitsunero3 votes

Ha! Silver4! I got placed Bronze 5 I was Gold5

=__=

Played against diaminds and plats as well

way to ruin the experience

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