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The Future of New Champ Select

RiotRiot Socrates·1/31/2016, 5:55:36 AM·159 votes·47,498 views

Hey all,

Now that new champ select’s out and stable, we wanted to share how we’re going to be updating things over the coming weeks and months. We’ve been keeping tabs on the various forums, so hopefully you see some of your suggestions here:

  • Pick intent will no longer show the opposing team your champion when your turn starts
  • Adding filters for sorting the champion grid by role
  • Adding ability to pull up the champion grid at any time
  • Shortening pre-select, pick and ban timers in champ select
  • Skin purchasing will work in champ select
  • Lots of bugfixes:
  • Fixing issues with soft locks around entering / leaving lobbies
  • Fixing issues around entering / leaving matchmaking (such as getting hit with queue dodges if you accept a match where a player is in champ select already)
  • Fixing queue time display inaccuracies
  • Free to play champions will once again be unplayable in ranked
  • Fixing an issue where the client is not popping to the front each time an action (AFK check, ban, pick) is required

We’re continuing to tune matchmaking in terms of time and quality (measured as each team having an equal chance at victory), and 6.2 brought some features like ward skin and chroma selection. This list isn’t exhaustive, so let us know your ideas for new champ select.

457 Comments

CanIHaveMidPlz1/31/2016, 7:40:18 AM90 votes

First of all, thank you for the transparency! Very much appreciated. I like this trend. :)

Now, for the question: Is there any possibility of allowing us to be able to "Fill except X"? With the current UI this could be accomplished by choosing Fill as primary, then the words "EXCEPT FOR" show above the secondary slot, where we select which role we don't want to fill. And if someone wants to queue for every position, just replace the secondary role's "Fill" with...whatever phrasing would work best. "None" could work, but that might be confusing. Just a suggestion.

This is just a theory, of which I have no data to back up, but this could possibly result in lower queue times. There are many people who hate a given role, and are scared of choosing Fill because of the fear of getting that role. Nobody wants to be in that position of having to choose between performing poorly or dodging because they were unlucky.

This would effectively let people in this situation queue up for four roles now instead of only two, which would lower queue times for everybody, no?

Squidguy1/31/2016, 10:08:28 AM67 votes

Personally, I think your primary role should take true priority over your secondary role. As a primary mid and secondary support, I find that I'm playing as support a majority of the time. This is probably due to support being in higher demand, but I'd rather a slightly longer queue time if it means going my primary role more often.

darkdill1/31/2016, 6:00:16 AM25 votes

Is there ANY accommodation going forward for people who only want to play one role (i.e. "I can't play anything but top!")?

Or is it now "Only play one role? Sorry, play another game."

EDIT: I can play any role, but sometimes I don't want to let RNG put me in a spot other than jungle.

Billdo1/31/2016, 6:48:29 AM19 votes

Here is my biggest issue, I am a filler, BUT TOP LANE....

PLZ PLZ PLZ let me do this. just not a fill....

Thank you

Edit:

What i mean is add after "fill" add an exception if you wish" type thing,....

Reputation1/31/2016, 11:39:27 AM16 votes

I think you should be able to queue up with your botlane partner together in dynamic queue.

If I pick ad carry as primary role and my friend picks support primary I think there should be a big chance that we're getting it. But most of the times I get my secondary role and my friends stuck with a random player.

In teambuilder you could queue up for any role you want, without selecting something you don't feel like playing.

I should be able to pick botlane/support as my primary/secondary and my friend should be able to pick support/botlane as their role and we should be able to queue up for it. But it says we need o cover more roles. Which seems a bit odd. I would like to see this fixed because this sucks.

Maybe even a blind pick teambuilder version because sometimes the champ select is longer than the game it self. while in teambuilder you queued up for your role and your g2g

This dynamic queue thing is good for ranked. But I feel like it's ruing the game experience for people who like to play normals.

This is a good ranked system, but this just is not replacing teambuiler, in my eyes this is not even close to teambuilder.

OhYEA this might be a neat feature. If you're with a 5 man team and everyone selects fill, the system give out the roles In order. I would like to see that being random. So that your group goes into queue and find out what role they play rather than the host gets top, the one that joined after jungle ect.

I'm very interested in what you think.

Rocketier1/31/2016, 6:41:08 AM14 votes

In premade games you sometimes get 2 junglers in 1 team, can you guys also fix that please. I'm very meta.Teemo

Niyumi1/31/2016, 8:22:19 AM14 votes

Hey, one feature I don't see mentioned up there is setting a default skin. In the old lobby system, whatever skin you loaded into a game with was automatically selected for you in the next lobby. It's not a big deal, but would you be able to bring that back? Sometimes I forget to pick my skin, and I have to look ugly for a game. xD

Bukakkayee1/31/2016, 6:39:06 AM12 votes

Would you guys consider doing a teambuilder thing again? i really liked that where i could pick what champ i wanted to play before hand, and if i didnt want to play with a certain team comp i could just join another group, now if i see a teemo jungle i have to wait 5 more minutes cause i dodged a que

Swizzle1/31/2016, 5:58:10 AM11 votes

Adding ability to pull up the champion grid at any time

Right from the Stonewall video! :D Good job Riot :D

YourSh4dow1/31/2016, 12:15:05 PM10 votes

Make the Primary role matter more... After 10 or more minutes of waiting (my record is 30 minutes beforee getting into game because of some1 didnt accept , did dodge,didnt lock in pick and ban....) I want to go jungle I expect to get jungle. Not support or something else after waiting so long.

lightdragoon881/31/2016, 6:08:34 AM9 votes

Jhin Now about this ordeal of me being ban-able, but not pick-able.

FatTaco1/31/2016, 11:48:27 AM7 votes

If you pick Support as your secondary you will 95% of the time get Support, can we fix this? in any way? like I don't mind support but I'd like to get my main role (Jungle) at least a few times? There's like no point picking Support as your secondary unless you really want it.

CrystallinEagle2/1/2016, 10:45:29 AM6 votes

Dear Riot Developers,

1st of all thank you for putting so much effort into the development of the game! That shows the community how passioned you are about your work and how many borders you have to break through when you want to change something for the sake of the game and its players!

I have only 2 points which I wanted to make a note of and I didn't find here as problems listed.

**1. the 1st one is a volume toggle for the champ select background music: ** I've talked to many of my friends concerning this problem and every single one of them agreed after our exchange of views. They all wished for a volume control, so if the music is too loud and disturbs talking via skype or other 3rd party communication programs, you could simply turn the volume down in the client once and for all. Cause right now I for example workaround it through lowering the general volume of the client via the soundmixer in the right corner (OS: Windows 7). But that means also, that the volume of every other sound of the client is minimized and it is just a workaround so not comfortable at all. Please consider to build in a volume control in the new champ selection in general! I guess many players already had the same issue with the old system, just like me and my friends did, cause we wanted that to be build in in the new champ selection as an improvement.

2. A function in the system, that remembers the roles, that have been chosen before the game starts I noticed after playing several games, alone or with friends, that we had to rechoose our role picks after every finished game. But our role wishes didn't change throughout the game sessions, so all of us still locked in the same positions over and over again. And thats where I and my friends wished for a function, where the pre- lobby of the new champion selection would simply remember/keep the roles, that have been chosen from the player in the pre-lobby, locked in for the next game. Then nobody would have to rechoose their unchanged positions over and over again, game after game. So if the role wish didn't change after the finished game, the roomleader could simply press "play again" and the team would be in the queue again. That would be very comfortable and maybe you simply overlooked the opportunity of building in a remembering function for the system concerning the roles, that have been picked for the last game. Pls think about building in something like that, so the players have the feeling of a smooth working system around them, which provides everything they need in a fast and comfortable way.

I hope you will concern my suggestions! Ty for reading my comment <3 summoner 1

Hëärt1/31/2016, 9:36:05 AM5 votes

Hi, just curious on where you guys are with the Solo Ladder and if it will run on the same new champ select or the old one!

Oshosi1/31/2016, 7:28:23 AM5 votes

Can you make more emphasis on primary role please

C3LM3R1/31/2016, 1:14:47 PM5 votes

Is there any way to add a distinct sound clue that it's 'your' turn during ban phase? I've noticed that for everything else in queuing up, you guys have great audio indicators that its time to accept a game, pick your champ, and game has started, but I've noticed that when its time to choose your champ to ban, there is no distinct sound indicator until it gets the ominous 10s left countdown. So, sometimes when I minimize the LoL window to look up something else real quick, I take longer than I mean to and suddenly realize I've only got a few seconds left to ban something out.

It would really help those of us that multi-task, but have bad memories.

Place Ad Here2/1/2016, 12:34:20 AM5 votes

Here is some data for my last 79 games queued as Jung/Fill:

Top 13 (16%) Jung 14 (18%) Mid 15 (19%) Bot 5 (6%) Sup 32 (41%) Total 79 (100%)

This only includes games that actually started. This would be a lot better if I queued as Support/Fill. It makes no sense how my primary role is only my third most frequently played lane.

YoshixZeFabulous2/1/2016, 11:37:28 AM4 votes

Can we please bring back the ability to hover a champion's profile and see their abilities? I know for most people this isn't as important, but for people who haven't played in a long time or are still learning the game, it's nice to be able to get some idea of what you're up against.

Shíny1/31/2016, 6:49:13 AM4 votes

I've heard there was the possibility for a filter that sorts champs by how recently you've played them, Is that something that the team is still looking into? I'm mainly interested in having some more personalized filters to use in champ select, perhaps something that I can even customize, like how there are custom item sets.

FatTaco1/31/2016, 11:58:34 AM3 votes

It's still the same issues I'm reading about Support so this once again proves my point how a lot of the player base do not like Support in its current state. No one wants to play it because you don't have many opportunities to really be the victory for your team, your items are so uninteresting and give you no dueling power to anyone other than the other support or a really weak adc. You can't CS you can only click around the lane waiting for 1 of them to make a mistep which is just uninteresting gameplay because you're waiting for who to derp out first. Supports do not get any respect or gratification by other players because they view support as weak bullet sponges. Only time support has ever been interesting is when the meta shifts and allows high damage champions to join the bottom lane (Annie Brand Rengar LeeSin ) I feel like we need another Support update like one we had in Season 4, I think maybe a big chunk of the games code needs to be reworked so Supports can fill these problems they have. No one wants to play it unless you are a player that really does not want to take responsibility which I find is a lazy excuse to have a role in the game, 1 player gets to chill out and watch others do all the hardest work.