Forums definition for personal attacks and "on topic" ?

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From your OP. As such, it is on topic, per your original thread topic, to discuss whether you are being targeted with personal attacks or not. When you do what you're doing here as well and attempting to stonewall people with large walls of text, and then venturing into personal attacks, then you lose the ability to claim that someone else is attacking you for no reason. As the moderators have said, they tend to give leeway when two people are "duking it out", so long as it doesn't cross a certain line.

Source for this? If you dont have it then I can only assume you are lying here. It doest name sense that if I ask "is the food any good here" to start disucssing my poo or what I ate for breakfast, my eating habbits or the time I eat <- All I want to know is if the food is good here. For you not to understand this is just mind-blowing.

If you had not begun insulting the other player in your other thread by calling him a liar among other things, then it is possible his personal attacks would not have been merited. As such, this answers your original topic of this thread about the moderators definitions of personal attacks as well as your belief you're being targeted with them.

Im sorry to inform you that it doesnt work like that, just because you believe I did insult someone (and reality is I didnt since moderators didnt think so) <- proving you dead wrong once again.

Also: You are responsible for what you type no matter what. I was bullied by 4 germans in a game for 45 min, I asked them to "STFU" 4 t imes and was banned, riot doesnt take context in to consideration nor provocations <- Sorry to inform you that you are dead wrong again and that your principes are wrong.

Also, if a person lies, he is a liar. Just because you dont like that word doesnt force me to use any other word. Just like if you dont like shovle, Im still calling it for what it is, a shovle <- SOrry to inform you abou tthis.

As to how personal attacks are defined, please see the Universal Rules, which I've quoted for you below:

Beyond this, it is a case by case basis where the moderator will review the situation and make a judgement call. You may not agree with every judgement call, but that does not make them incorrect, especially when you started it in the thread.

Here it is, straight evidence that you cant re-direct me to where I need to go, you feel you need to argue <- For no reason. Just link me where I need to go and be happy about it. <- You dont have to sit here and lie about the system and be wrong about how things works.

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Lastly, and I'm going to attempt to make this very clear and easy to understand, your prior thread WAS about you, whether you intended to make it or not. Your thread was as follows:

No its not and Im the soul interpeter of my own work and craft <- Noone but me is given the right to interpet my textes as my thoughts. You are not allowed to take my "Hello" and translate it in to "Good bye" as an example, just like you are not allowed to tell me what my thread is about. I tell you what my thread is about <- If you cant handle that then get out of here. Its my thread, I made it.

Please notice that you give your personal LP gain/loss statistics, as well as specifically asking people why your statistics are that way.

No I dont, not in this thread and here is where we is. Now you are dead center off topic <- You are in fact talking about other forum threads where you believe I act: X <- And this justifies Y <- It doesnt work like that. If you have a problem with my behavior in thread X, then talk to me in thread X, yo uare currently ruining this thread by going offtopic <- This due to you being wrong what a topic is and who has t he right to interpet it.

The first-level responses to your thread (i.e. the responses to the main thread, not "replies to replies") included:

You are on the wrong thread.

In all of these responses, you replied. The vast majority of your replies were well thought out and constructive to the discussion. However, to the first comment, you replied the following:

Still offtopic

You attempt to provide "facts" about pro players to back your idea up, but you didn't even say "I don't understand this because I see XYZ", you went straight to "I see this one thing happen in pro play so you're a liar".

Again: This is not related to this thread: This thread is about what is personal attacks and offtopic <-

The other player then responded answering your questions and explaining why what you see in pro play doesn't apply to you. In that response, the other player said the following:

I can see how you may think that's a personal attack - but you called him a liar first, and he's just showing that everyone lies at times. The appropriate response here would've been to say "oh, I'm sorry, I must've misremembered or mistaken it" and fess up to your lie (whether it was on purpose or on accident).

You then responded to him with this:

This is a very very condescending rhetorical question to ask. He has every right to bring up your losing streak as that is the answer to the question you asked way back up in the original post - "why is this?" Your response further contained:

And he explained why what he said wasn't a lie, and why your explanation about pro players was both inapplicable and incorrect to begin with. You did not even attempt to counter his explanation - you just basically called him a liar again. While I get that both of you were not understanding the other (I can understand the point he was trying to make here), the answer is not to start calling him a liar and being an ass. He was pointing out that pro players will remain high ranking because of the fact that their MMR will still be high - even if they lose all their provisional games, they're still more skilled than bronze level. Going forward:

This data is public information and is available from multiple sites both Riot owned and third-party. This is a pure insult and you are continuing to lie about him lying about your data. That was not an appropriate comment from you. Period. Moving on:

Again. Public. Data. You can go to op.gg, mobalytics, hell there's dozens of sites now that all provide their own unique stats that they've collected from games and calculated. There are no limitations. Ranked data is 100% public (well, except replays after the next patch unless they're saved). The statistics you gave in the way you gave them were incorrect. If he was misinterpreting them (ex: you meant something else), the fault is on you, because the way you provided the statistics it appeared like you meant one thing. You can't just blame everyone else by saying "well I meant something else, duh" after they call you out on it. The onus is on you to ensure you are understood properly. As someone who claims they have a year of psychology courses, you should know this - you are responsible for ensuring your message is received properly.

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I'm done going through that thread as the back and forth just continues. You keep saying "I've explained something" when you just call him a liar and don't actually explain anything. You keep saying "you don't have all the data and the data's wrong" when the data is public data. The thread got derailed because of your actions, and as the original poster of the thread, the moderators likely gave you leeway to derail your own thread if you wanted.

I am very very curious here as to why only this one user was the one you had an issue with. No less than 4 users pointed out your winrate as a reason for your LP gain/loss - this is the only one you resorted to calling a "liar" off the bat. Let's point out again where you lie or fail to understand what he is saying:

You say "I was 70% last season". In the context of this thread, the only interpretation is that your winrate was 70%. If you meant something else, that is your fault for not articulating properly.

You say "Cause tank/support playes dont get as much "MMR" as mid/adc players(?)", which he could've very easily called out as a lie because it's flat out not true and you can't prove it (because it's not true).

You say "I have seen pro players who were high rank the season before <- Really BOMB and get really bad promotion series and still end up like plat 5 to diamond 5" - but you fail to accept that even if they BOMB their provisional series, they're still good players and they'll still climb back up. Having a few bad games doesn't screw your MMR or rank.

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So, the bottom line? Were there personal attacks? Yeah, I guess. You both called each other liar a lot and you yourself were making accusations and heated comments toward him more than he was towards you (you also started it). For these reasons, I can completely understand why the moderators may have chosen to let it be instead of deleting the comments. However, if they had chosen to delete the comments, it would've been both you and the other player.

Yeah going to stop reading cause you just talk about what I say in other threads <- That is off the topic. The topic is still "Hello, how do moderators in these forums define personal attacks? " <- This is how this thread starts. the title of this thread is: Forums definition for personal attacks and "on topic" ?

You are going offtopic and borderline harassment atm. <- This cause of how ignorant you are. Ignorant means (if you look it up) to activly ignore information <- It is not negative nor positive. It describes a scenario where you dont accept facts, like you being offtopic <- And you being told this several times but still ignores it.

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Well, yeah, if you want that question answered, you should make a thread asking that question.

I did, its this thread right here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/xNEGRXW6-forums-definition-for-personal-attacks-and-on-topic

It's like if I ask "how much does a bus ticket cost" but then I put in "I'm trying to get to Italy" - would it be off topic for the person I'm asking to say "It's cheaper to fly to Italy"? No. It doesn't directly answer the question you asked, but you clarified your question by saying "I'm trying to get to Italy" - thus that becomes the topic of the discussion.

Noone asks how much a bus ticket costs and no that is not equivalent <- What it is equivalent to is me asking "how much for those apples?" <- and you start telling me where the apples are from, what is in my shopping basket, what shampoo brand I use <- All I want to know is the price of those apples <- You refuse to answer the quesiton and start attacking me for no good reason other then your own ignorance <- (Means missunderstanding)

In your original thread, you were asking about your LP gain/loss - not the system itself. Then when the user replied, you chose to attempt to call him a liar, and you presented more facts. By the end of that discussion, you guys were "off topic" - but you both were replying directly to each other and stayed on topic in your replies, thus that's just how the discussion went - it's not harmful and it's not something that is going to be moderated.

No did not, this is the thread I made and there is no use for you to talk about other threads, my gameplay, my life, my personality, my haircolor, how big my hands are, how good I am at kicking a ball etc etc etc, the only thing you need to focus on when you are in here is this: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/xNEGRXW6-forums-definition-for-personal-attacks-and-on-topic Nothing else

This thread, you ask about defining personal attacks, but you then clarify that by saying you think you are being targeted. As such, it is on topic here to discuss if you are being targeted with personal attacks. If you do not want that topic discussed, you should not bring it up. It is that simple. If you, the thread creator, don't want something discussed, don't invite it to be discussed by bringing it up.

No its not how it works. Holy crap, are you realy this thick-sculled? "What is the reason they attack me? Maybe I should get a dog" <- ANd you start talking about dog breeds, you start talking aobut dog food, how to bellyrub a dog and that they dont like cats. You also find out that I was thinking about getting pepper spray, so you start talking about cooking <- this is what you are doing, nothing else.

Answer the question, the quesiton was still "What is the reason they attack me?" <- You need to ignore the other parts, if you cant do that then ask about them <- You assumed the worse and was dead wrong. I proved this over and over again together with the level of ignorance in your statement.

Lastly, personal attacks are defined in the Universal Rules. The moderators apply those rules on a case by case basis using personal judgement. You do not have to necessarily agree with their decisions. That does not mean you are being targeted.

Its funny, this thread says "Forums definition for personal attacks" <- You told me where you believe I can find the answer... <- this is not what I asked for. Its as if you dont understand these words like "definition " <- You ignore that you dont understand it and then just comment on the parts you understand. It makes it superweird to read and try to understand.

Again and I can stress this enough: I made the thread, I determine what it is about <- If you cant handle this then get out of here. There is no purpose for you to try to destroy my thread and make sure my quesitons are not answered <- this just makes you look like a narcissistic bully.