Specialist/mod does not belong on the boards

Soul Dealer·Aug 20, 2019·4 votes·4,301 views

So there is a certain specialist/mod that shall remain nameless, as I do not want to break name and shame rules, that should not be allowed on the boards. This individual has been horrible to people on the boards for a long time and abuses his powers frequently. They spam posts commenting the same thing on every post about certain topics, refuse to ever admit they are wrong even when people provide facts otherwise, and intentionally ignore parts of posts just to try and say they are right. This person needs to go.

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rujitraAug 20, 20196 votes

The same things you've said about me (you've replied directly to me saying these things in other posts so I'm not sure why you're averse to naming me here) i could turn around to be about you.

I've asked you to explain how my opinion on Eternals is wrong, and you continually try and claim that your opinion is fact, that you've provided logic and evidence (when you haven't), and that it is inappropriate for me to have an opinion.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20192 votes

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The same things you've said about me (you've replied directly to me saying these things in other posts so I'm not sure why you're averse to naming me here) i could turn around to be about you.

I've asked you to explain how my opinion on Eternals is wrong, and you continually try and claim that your opinion is fact, that you've provided logic and evidence (when you haven't), and that it is inappropriate for me to have an opinion.

I have explained it multiple times to you as have other people but you repeatedly ignore us and straight up lie about certain things just to maintain your image. It does not matter what I say at this point because even if I had the exact code of Eternals to show you it is no different from something like the banners from apex you would still find a way to claim you are right. It also doesn’t help that you repeatedly ignore the community on the boards as well. Every time you make a post about Eternals or even a comment in player behavior where you are a specialist you get downvoted a lot and have all of your points disproven by multiple people but you still refuse to accept you are wrong and you continue to then go and comment on more posts causing the whole issue all over again.

rujitraAug 20, 20195 votes

You have never explained to me how something more intensive than CSGO stattrak (which literally is just a kill counter) which costs money should be free.

I have not ignored anything that is logical. You guys have been ignoring my points and nobody has yet to actually respond to the fact that CSGO is permitted to do something that is ACTUALLY a simple "kill tracker" and charge for it, but when Riot does something that's MORE than a simple kill tracker and charges for it it's outrageous.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20194 votes

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You have never explained to me how something more intensive than CSGO stattrak (which literally is just a kill counter) which costs money should be free.

I have not ignored anything that is logical. You guys have been ignoring my points and nobody has yet to actually respond to the fact that CSGO is permitted to do something that is ACTUALLY a simple "kill tracker" and charge for it, but when Riot does something that's MORE than a simple kill tracker and charges for it it's outrageous.

We have told you dozens of times you cannot compare those 2 things because the reason stat tracks cost money is not because of the counter itself but because of the skin it is attached to. I have played csgo since it came out and the skins are the driving force behind the game because of their real world value. If riots products were worth real world value then you could compare the two but since they are not you can’t.

Now take a look at apex legends. Apex is a free to play game like league that has trackers for specific things on specific legends. Ex: meters traveled using wraiths us and clones made as mirage. These are legend specific counters that track specific things for said legend just like league is doing with Eternals and while you can purchase some from the store you also get a lot of them for free or you can craft and get some in loot boxes. The fact that riot won’t even let us get them out of hextech crafting is the reason people are upset. If they are going to charge money for it then at least let us get them from hextech crafting/chests like every other item that you can pay for.

rujitraAug 20, 20195 votes

So.. the fact that Riot is attaching other cosmetics to this is lost on you? You act as if Riot is making you pay for the number itself here. No. They are attached to other things.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20194 votes

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So.. the fact that Riot is attaching other cosmetics to this is lost on you? You act as if Riot is making you pay for the number itself here. No. They are attached to other things.

It’s funny how you completely ignore what I said about apex and just focus on your comparison but let me break it apart for you anyway.

In csgo the skin is worth money because you get it from a loot box that has a random chance of dropping it. There are stat track variants that can also drop. When these things first came out their was a community market to sell the items on and the community determined what a fair price would be for the items. The cosmetics that riot is attaching is the equivalent of graffitis in csgo. Graffitis are purchasable but only for a few cents at most and you get a massive amount of them for free from random drops in game.

rujitraAug 20, 20194 votes

So... It's ok in CSGO to pay hundreds of dollars for something because some random person decided that's what they wanted to sell it for, but because Apex did it for free Riot has to do what Apex did.

Doesn't make much sense, but you're entitled to that opinion. It doesn't make my opinion wrong.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20193 votes

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So... It's ok in CSGO to pay hundreds of dollars for something because some random person decided that's what they wanted to sell it for, but because Apex did it for free Riot has to do what Apex did.

Doesn't make much sense, but you're entitled to that opinion. It doesn't make my opinion wrong.

It’s ok in csgo because the entire game was based around it. If leagues was entirely based around Eternals then paying money for them would be fine as it is a core part of the game like skins are in csgo. This is not the case however and this what you refuse to accept now matter how many people tell you that. Also have you ever even played csgo before because if you have you would never have even made this comparison in the first place. On a side note I am also an active member of the csgo community and we frequently talk about league of legends as it is a game we also enjoy and we have all agreed that Eternals should not a paid product.

rujitraAug 20, 20193 votes

So companies are only allowed to ever sell one product.

You go to McDonalds and buy a burger? They have to give you the fries, the drink, and the McFlurry for free - because they can't be allowed to sell multiple things, right? Everything "extra" has to be free.

And yeah, I have played CSGO for 5+ years now, actually.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20193 votes

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So companies are only allowed to ever sell one product.

You go to McDonalds and buy a burger? They have to give you the fries, the drink, and the McFlurry for free - because they can't be allowed to sell multiple things, right? Everything "extra" has to be free.

And yeah, I have played CSGO for 5+ years now, actually.

I never said they shouldn’t be allowed to sell more then one product. Csgo sells multiple things as does league. The difference between Eternals an any other system is that there is 0 way to get Eternals without paying for it while in every other system their is a way to get said trackers for free either through drops or crafting. If riot just made them available in hextech crafting then no one would have an issue with them. Also if you actually have played csgo for 5 years then you would never have compared Eternals to stat stack weapons in anyway so I highly doubt you she played csgo for that long.

GatekeeperTDSAug 20, 20194 votes

See, you're having a good conversation. Lots of intelligent, well-put points. And then this -

if you actually have played csgo for 5 years then you would never have compared Eternals to stat stack weapons in anyway so I highly doubt you she played csgo for that long

This is antagonistic and doesn't help your conversation. You need to learn to discredit the argument, not the person.

rujitraAug 20, 20191 votes

The system has not even been released yet. I am fairly certain that over time Eternals will evolve and they likely will be available through mastery or through other means (such as hextech loot or missions).

FOR JUSTICEAug 20, 20195 votes

Why bother with a boards post then?

If you feel they legitimately shouldnt have a place on the moderation team why not go to the boards discord?

Because making a public post with little chance of the moderators seeing probably isnt going to get much done.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20191 votes

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Why bother with a boards post then?

If you feel they legitimately shouldnt have a place on the moderation team why not go to the boards discord?

Because making a public post with little chance of the moderators seeing probably isnt going to get much done.

I sent in a ticket to riot and it just got ignored. I guess I’m venting a little because this guy is constantly pissing me off and the mods know this guy doesn’t deserve to be on the boards but does nothing about it.

DerMangoJoghurtAug 20, 20192 votes

The mods are all volunteers. Riot are barely involved with the boards, that's why sending tickets probably won't help. As already said, ask the mods on the Boards Discord server to review the behavior of that person.

GatekeeperTDSAug 20, 20195 votes

Want to know what the person in question does? He doesn't tell people what they want to hear. He tells them what they need to hear. Im sorry that pisses you off, but welcome to the world, you're going to have to deal with not getting your way.

I support all the board specialists 100%.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20191 votes

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Want to know what the person in question does? He doesn't tell people what they want to hear. He tells them what they need to hear. Im sorry that pisses you off, but welcome to the world, you're going to have to deal with not getting your way.

I support all the board specialists 100%.

I’m fine with not getting my way. What I’m not ok with is a specialist going around bullying people and abusing his rank to make someone seem like a bad person when they are not. I’m sorry but they are not a good person and this specialist is the only one I have an issue with as I believe all of the other ones do their job well and effectively while trying their best to continue to have the community in a good place.

GatekeeperTDSAug 20, 20193 votes

going around bullying people

If there were any true instances of bullying, Heralds would take care of it very quickly. Just because you think something is bullying doesn't make it true.

abusing his rank

Specialists have no rank. They've been tagged as knowledgeable in the topic. They cannot moderate your comments, ban you, or do anything.

I’m sorry but they are not a good person

Nobody here is required to be a good person. They're required to follow the board's rules, which he does.

You aren't going to gain any traction with this, I'm afraid. You should discuss this with the staff in their discord.

Imperial PandaaAug 20, 20191 votes

Just to tack on, the mods/heralds do also keep watch the specialists. After the tag came about, Rujitra was a bit more aggressive in his responses but the mod/herald tapped them for a quick discussion about it. Well, I assume that's what happened since he did dial it back after that.

KanzlerAug 20, 20194 votes

We all know who you meant before clicking on this thread which says something.

But yeah, he is definitely one of those mods who could use some summer school on how to actually be a good mod. It takes more than just praising riot for everything and anything.

But yeah, go to the boards discord if you feel strongly enough about it and complain.

GatekeeperTDSAug 20, 20195 votes

one of those mods who could use some summer school on how to actually be a good mod

He's not a mod. He's a board member like any of the rest of us who has been given a tag because he's displayed expertise in the topic.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20191 votes

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He's not a mod. He's a board member like any of the rest of us who has been given a tag because he's displayed expertise in the topic.

Why was he given the tag? He has proven time and time again he has 0 expertise in his topic. All he does is berate people and cause huge problems in posts.~~~~

GatekeeperTDSAug 20, 20196 votes

I've had comments of mine removed/moderated many times. The staff here are attentive and take care of problems quickly. If he was doing anything that was against the board's rules, they would take care of it.

You have a problem with anyone that doesn't agree with you. You've argued to kingdom come with me personally in several posts in the past as well. If you're open to advice, please take this - the point of a discussion is not for all the participants to walk away in agreement. You are going to disagree with people, and you need to accept that nobody else is required to agree with you either.

Posts like this do not show any maturity on your part, and I wish you'd understand that. Rujitra is not required to agree with you on anything, and as long as he's not violating any board rules (of which you are not the judge), he can reply to you in any manner he sees fit. I read your posts, you're intelligent and capable of making good points, but you get really frustrated when people don't agree with you. Please learn to be OK with that.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20191 votes

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I've had comments of mine removed/moderated many times. The staff here are attentive and take care of problems quickly. If he was doing anything that was against the board's rules, they would take care of it.

You have a problem with anyone that doesn't agree with you. You've argued to kingdom come with me personally in several posts in the past as well. If you're open to advice, please take this - the point of a discussion is not for all the participants to walk away in agreement. You are going to disagree with people, and you need to accept that nobody else is required to agree with you either.

Posts like this do not show any maturity on your part, and I wish you'd understand that. Rujitra is not required to agree with you on anything, and as long as he's not violating any board rules (of which you are not the judge), he can reply to you in any manner he sees fit. I read your posts, you're intelligent and capable of making good points, but you get really frustrated when people don't agree with you. Please learn to be OK with that.

I understand what you are saying and I agree with most of it. My issue is that rujitra has ruined a lot of good discussions and posts by basically hijacking them and arguing with other people on them so the op’s original point is lost. I generally only respond to him after he has argued with the op or another person on the boards for awhile. I just want him to be a more respectful person in the community especially considering he is a specialist and should be held to higher standards.

ModUlanopoAug 20, 20194 votes

Have all of you forgotten Ulanopo's First Law?

~~IT'S OKAY FOR PEOPLE TO BE WRONG ON THE INTERNET~~

I mean, seriously. You guys have been going back and forth about something that's entirely a matter of opinion.

JuleviAug 20, 20193 votes

First of all: is it a specialist, a moderator or a person who has both titles?

"It is only a specialist" => Specialist is a title given for players who proved their knowledge on a certain topic - as far as I know the title is only visible at "their" subboard. Not every specialist has to be a moderator, plus they don't have more power than you and me.

If you encounter any problems with a player here on boards feel free to report their comments or contact the team (may it be on this subboard or on the Discord sever) and dicuss the problem with them.

Soul Dealer, my opinion about this topic and you is a bit biased, so I rather stop here. I just wanna say: you have no right to demand that someone has to go, even more when you admit that he "pisses you off" - you are quite influenced by your own personal problem with them.

Soul DealerAug 20, 20192 votes

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First of all: is it a specialist, a moderator or a person who has both titles?

"It is only a specialist" => Specialist is a title given for players who proved their knowledge on a certain topic - as far as I know the title is only visible at "their" subboard. Not every specialist has to be a moderator, plus they don't have more power than you and me.

If you encounter any problems with a player here on boards feel free to report their comments or contact the team (may it be on this subboard or on the Discord sever) and dicuss the problem with them.

Soul Dealer, my opinion about this topic and you is a bit biased, so I rather stop here. I just wanna say: you have no right to demand that someone has to go, even more when you admit that he "pisses you off" - you are quite influenced by your own personal problem with them.

It’s not my own personal problem it what I see him do not only to me but to other people. He comments on every post about something he doesn’t like and turns the discussion into a war zone ruining many good posts and discussions. Something needs to change with him because I am not the only person who has complained about him.

JuleviAug 21, 20191 votes

I understand your frustration and know pretty well how many players already complained about their behaviour - to be honest I still remember some cases about rujitra and their statements which got criticised a lot.

In my eyes it's a huge problem how many people here on boards let their discussions escalate. On the one hand rujitra their tone/attitude is sometimes quite counterproductive, on the other hand some people here love to stir up debates with them about things which have no place in certain threads - rather it leads to hijacking the original post. Both sides should be held accountable.