Appeal blocked due to Appeal Policy

KC King Caomanac·Jul 23, 2017·2 votes·503 views

Nice. In order to appeal a ruling, one must have third party software and hardware added to their machine (Discord, mic and speakers). If not, you have no appeal capability.

I had a 24 hour suspension, which I had to sit through since I was blocked even from appealing even thru this location (nice built-in dodge). That period of time is not recoverable, by any means. Thus, this clever Catch-22 made it possible for this Board to avoid my appeal entirely.

At any rate, I will put just some part of my case before you here:

I was warned for apparently starting a topic which already existed. Board DID NOT provide any link to show me the active thread, thus provided no EVIDENCE of their statement. Without that, the suspension and warning were OUT OF LINE, and thus are required to be removed (it doesn't matter whether they do or not, they are not valid, and I will ignore this after this post anyway).

But also note that, since there is no active thread with the topic, I still cannot EVER open that topic. If I should, I have been warned that further action will be taken against me, even still without the initial evidence.

So, that part of your game shall remain unaddressed, which it appears is the root issue anyway (I must have opened a topic which Riot wants to remain silent upon). A long time issue, and they all have solutions, but they need to be discussed, not washed under the bridge, as in this case.

So, you have made it clear that I cannot pursue that topic, and I have nothing else to bring up. Effectively, you have shut me up.

14 Comments

Deep Terror NamiJul 23, 20179 votes

I checked your removals and noticed you were spamming the boards with rants intentionally designed to be disruptive. Appeal is denied whether you have Discord or not, but if you'd like to discuss your behavior we can do so here if you don't want to use Discord. Discord is used because you don't actually need the app to access it; you can use it online without any download.

We do our best to be visible with our actions and be open to feedback with multiple channels to discuss things with us, but we're not going to accomodate intentional harm to the Boards and baiting moderators.

KC King CaomanacJul 23, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=lE6PUABf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-23T20:40:38.160+0000)

I checked your removals and noticed you were spamming the boards with rants intentionally designed to be disruptive. Appeal is denied whether you have Discord or not, but if you'd like to discuss your behavior we can do so here if you don't want to use Discord. Discord is used because you don't actually need the app to access it; you can use it online without any download.

We do our best to be visible with our actions and be open to feedback with multiple channels to discuss things with us, but we're not going to accomodate intentional harm to the Boards and baiting moderators.

Appeal is approved, regardless of your opinion, but it doesn't matter as, from what I have seen, the forum has no purpose. I still have no clue as to where to post my two key issues about the Co-Op battles, and there are none currently running which are in the ball park.

Instead of Abuse of Power, perhaps you could learn to be more helpful.

I will leave it at this, here are my two key issues (you can do with it what you like, but after this, I really can't see buying new champions because the practice area is all messed up):

Bot players. Easily identified as they always do the same thing. Include a background routine which detects that, then presents the players an opportunity for a remake by vote. Simple enough.

Jungle players (there are no opposing junglers in Co-Op play, so a jungler places the game out of balance). Easy enough - set the Co-Op games so that the smaller jungle camps spawn only the first time, then not again. The large and epic monsters can remain as usual.

There. Two problems with solutions. But, after how I have been treated, I will not care how this is handled, nor follow it in any way. But note that, due to the out of place warning, I now cannot start such topics, and none exist, thus those topics are closed by default.

Good work shutting people up. I now take my leave of your forums.

Deep Terror NamiJul 23, 20175 votes

Appeal is approved

It was just a one day ban, which is over.

I still have no clue as to where to post my two key issues

The appropriate sub-board to discuss behavior and punishments in the game would be the Player Behavior board, and you were initially directed there; this includes problems with banning botted accounts. You were also directed to the Gameplay board (which is appropriate for discussing the Jungle), which you posted on and that thread remains undeleted and unlocked, but you chose to repeatedly post with an announced intent to disrupt the Boards, so those other threads were removed or locked.

It is perfectly fine to discuss this topic, but it is not ok to be intentionally disruptive when you don't get what you want out of it.

KC King CaomanacJul 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=lE6PUABf,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-07-23T22:31:55.374+0000)

It was just a one day ban, which is over.

The appropriate sub-board to discuss behavior and punishments in the game would be the Player Behavior board, and you were initially directed there; this includes problems with banning botted accounts. You were also directed to the Gameplay board (which is appropriate for discussing the Jungle), which you posted on and that thread remains undeleted and unlocked, but you chose to repeatedly post with an announced intent to disrupt the Boards, so those other threads were removed or locked.

It is perfectly fine to discuss this topic, but it is not ok to be intentionally disruptive when you don't get what you want out of it.

I am unable to locate, thus review, any of my previous posts. I do not have the tools to do so, and your Forum does not provide such help. It appears that one must learn how to search the hard way, and I will not do so. From that, I am not able to review what you have said, thus it is jibberish.

Too bad that your design of too many but undefined categories makes it so confusing as to where such issues should be posted. Your problem, again, not mine.

My first post was trashed by your Community, which means that the moderators have already FAILED in their job, which is why this situation occurred. It was only AFTER your regulars trashed my first post which caused the reaction. You fail to understand that there was a CAUSE to my postings. Lack of thinking, and poor performance for a moderator (missing the start of an issue is fundamental to troubleshooting).

And again, with your out of place and unsupported warning, I now cannot bring these issues up because it appears that somewhere out there, these are already in an active thread ( being warned for duplicate postings).

They are not, I am pretty sure, and if they were, why hasn't Riot been doing anything about them?

In the end, your Co-Op games are trashed, useless. This is the area where new players expect to practice, but they cannot due to the two issues which I have identified and provided possible solution to you. In my own case, though I can fight my way through these battles, these issues do, in fact, detract from my own efforts to practice new champions, thus..........

The failure to correct things in the co-Op battles IS impacting your player pool, your revenue. If Riot chooses not to do anything, I can live with it, but that means that the game is already dead, it is just a matter of time.

My posts are meant to give Riot topics which will SAVE the game.

Have it your way, let it die. I will now voice my opinion via in-game chat (which means stopping my champion, not contributing to the fight while I type out my topics, etc.), thus even MORE disruptive than trying to suggest solutions via your horrible forum.

Nice solutions, Board. Make us run away and take our issues up in game instead of out here where they belong.

I will not return to this Board. Say what you will, as I have said my piece. Your out of place warning without thinking how it came about destroyed this experience. With such lack of thinking, this is no place for those of us who DO think.

HalcyonDwellerJul 24, 20172 votes

"I am the only person in the world who thinks rationally and everyone else is stupid and wrong and against me."

This is not the way to get others to play nice with you. If you want to be treated with respect you must first act in a respectable manner and treat others with respect.

Deep Terror NamiJul 24, 20174 votes

I am unable to locate, thus review, any of my previous posts

Just go to your profile on the top right of this page, and go to Boards Profile. That is where you can see all your posts.

HalcyonDwellerJul 24, 20172 votes

You need to stop taking everything anyone does as an affront to your person.

The moderators are doing their job. Disruptive posts are removed. That's standard procedure, it doesn't matter to them if it's you or another player who posts it.

You made this personal. Not them.

KC King CaomanacJul 25, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=lE6PUABf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-23T20:40:38.160+0000)

I checked your removals and noticed you were spamming the boards with rants intentionally designed to be disruptive. Appeal is denied whether you have Discord or not, but if you'd like to discuss your behavior we can do so here if you don't want to use Discord. Discord is used because you don't actually need the app to access it; you can use it online without any download.

We do our best to be visible with our actions and be open to feedback with multiple channels to discuss things with us, but we're not going to accomodate intentional harm to the Boards and baiting moderators.

intentionally designed????

You have lost all credibility by making statements which are patently opinions, but stating them as fact. And you are wrong, thus I now assume that ALL of your ideas and decisions have been wrong.

Please at least change your profile name so in the future, I will not be able to return to your obnoxiousness, pointing out just how opinionated you are.

And you are a moderator??? Making such huge assumptions and placing them in text?

From that, I no longer have any respect or concern over any Board decisions or rulings. With such a poor example of how they think, they deserve no authority at all.

You need to consider finding other employment. Making assumptions then putting them int he face of your customers is not good customer service, in fact, quite the opposite, a termination offense.

KC King CaomanacJul 25, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=lE6PUABf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-23T20:40:38.160+0000)

I checked your removals and noticed you were spamming the boards with rants intentionally designed to be disruptive. Appeal is denied whether you have Discord or not, but if you'd like to discuss your behavior we can do so here if you don't want to use Discord. Discord is used because you don't actually need the app to access it; you can use it online without any download.

We do our best to be visible with our actions and be open to feedback with multiple channels to discuss things with us, but we're not going to accomodate intentional harm to the Boards and baiting moderators.

I just reported your post. Probably useless since you are likely to be able to get your buddies to delete the report. Still, your rudeness makes your entire Board discredited.

RandomoniumJul 25, 20172 votes

You're the one who is being rude here. Nami is showing you FAR more patience and respect than I would.

KC King CaomanacJul 26, 20171 votes

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You're the one who is being rude here. Nami is showing you FAR more patience and respect than I would.

So, you don't think it is WRONG for a person to make assumptions and then accussations without knowing the hearts and minds of those who wrote the piece?

I am sorry, but no one would agree with you or anyone else that Nami was doing right. By accusing me of INTENTIONALLY doing something, without truly knowing, is flatly wrong.

Sad performance for a power monger moderator. What this means is that, unless one is a FRIEND of Board Moderators, best not ever come here at all.

That is my takeaway. Since I do not frequent this ugly place, I am not wanted here. Good enough for me. With a Community that starts with insults and no true conversation, then a moderator team which makes false accusations in order to gain support from the rest of their Community is no place for decent people.

By the way, Nami chose NOT to review my INITIAL posts, which got trolled and insulted badly, which was the CAUSE of the multiple posts, which created the warning. From that, this is due to the lack of thinking from moderators who choose NOT to find out what the cause was.

Sad. And now, the Board has deleted that post, thus tampered with the evidence, therefore, I have no room to argue with them anymore.

Nice work, those who have total control over their own fate. I do too.

Leaving, not coming back. You have successfully pushed another player from your precious forum.

Bad Community, horrible moderators. No place for human beings. Enjoy yourself.

RandomoniumJul 27, 20171 votes

Lol, everyone is agreeing with us. That's why you're getting downvoted and we're getting upvoted. You are so blind that you can't see you're the one who is rude and disrespectful.

She was actually extremely polite and helpful to you even after you insulted her multiple times.

Yeah, its honestly best if you don't come back. You obviously aren't ready to socialize with others yet. How about you learn some manners and then we'll try again.

Imperial PandaaJul 23, 20174 votes

Actually, you could have still used discord to appeal the ban. Here's how

Discord is a functioning website so you don't have to download anything.
You don't need a mic/headset/speakers. Discord has this amazing thing called text channels and inside these channels you can type. I hope you have a keyboard since he managed this post.

Now this next point is less about using Discord and more about what it seems you want to appeal. 3. You are Spam posting the same thing on the board's. Clearly admitting it in the title of one post. Here are basically identical posts in 3 different sections all about the same thing. Not counting the deleted threads because of the spamming A. boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/wugu1o8l-time-to-spam-the-forums-due-to-the-cheat-bots-left-in-the-game B. boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EGLVfEnW-wish-lol-would-get-rid-of-the-cheat-bots-they-can-but-they-dont C. boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/dpERYiVT-this-is-a-useless-forum

Now, C is the shortest one and potentially excused. However, A and B, are basically the exact same rant which you don't even seem to want to discuss. I may be wrong about the discuss part since either you delete them or the forum team does because of the spam.

Questions?

KC King CaomanacJul 27, 20171 votes

All I tried to do was to improve some of the game. For that, I have been insulted, ridiculed, and warned by the Board.

It is the Community which needs to improve, and the game can wait, it appears.

There is no method for players to suggest any improvements. This game is stuck due to the Community blocking any new thoughts.

Worst part? Again, I was merely trying to suggest an improvement. Now, I can't see any chance of any forward movement on this product.

Too bad, it can still improve, but not with this Community. When morons are upvoting their long time friends, but not even seeing what a new face brings to the table.........

Your forum is beyond help. It does not serve a positive purpose. There is no way that anyone can survive this Community. Not someone with decency, at any rate.

You see, the Board deleted the first post I made, which would have shown just how bad your Community is with the quick insults. True, this is a sad place, and not a good one fort anyone trying to suggest ideas.

Have it your way. The game will remain stuck with its problems. Anyone who doesn't like the problems will just stop playing. Can't get anything heard here, so why bother? Guess I get cursed for having some CONSIDERATION about improving the game. Instead, the flaws which remain shall remain, and new players will just have to make up their own minds.

So, since there is no point in trying, sure, I can give this forum up easily enough. A community full of biased friends supporting only themselves. Much like the selfish play we see daily in the game itself.

Well, i get past this. One can only hope that newer players might get past it so that LoL doesn't fade away due to lost players.

By the way, LoL would be far from the first game to die out due to lack of improving. A long list of dead games lay before them. When the Community thus the game closes their ears and minds, the game is doomed over time. Just a matter of time.

With Board Moderators rigging their decisions by destroying evidence, then denying appeals while the member has no text to fall back upon.........the forum is already dead.

Yes, I will not return,. This place is not conducive to forward movement. It is stuck with what it has, and no one can survive trying to suggest anything.

I will survive by leaving. The game.....well.......that is now up to me as to whether I choose to live with its uncorrectable flaws or not. New players are already likely running away after the experience of Co-Op mess such as we see every day. We can't track that as players, but it is happening. Some of my own friends tried this, but don't like how the Co-Op fights line up (which is why I came here in the first place, to save several new players, but we cannot keep them on board with such forum blocking). So, lost players already. There are certainly others.

My suggestions were small ones, and did not deserve the type of treatment they received. However, since this is how the Community wants to ensure that the game never gets better, good enough for me to see that no sane person should even try.

League of Legends - you either have to like it with its flaws, or play something else. There is surely no method to suggest improvements for it.