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Co-Op vs AI is driving me away with the unecessary team bots

KC King Caomanac·6/10/2017, 3:21:50 PM·2 votes·1,022 views

There are enough human players to fill a Co-Op roster, we do not need artificial champions which become nuisances. Why are they there? It is difficult enough when we see players bringing in junglers, for which there is no opposing bot, thus leaving the top lane to be a suicide mission (2 bots versus 1 human).

I do not know when Riot added this 'unwanted feature', but they need to get rid of it, soon! Since I am unaware as to the debate put forward to support this invasion of the game losers, but that debate needs to be done all over again, and until that time, these interfering human team bots have to go, NOW! They can be put back after a proper debate sees the Community truly insisting that they remain.

They just go out in mid lane and die, giving the bot mid laner a huge advantage. When the human team has the selfish jungler champions, the team is further hampered, to the point of losing many games, and not learning about their champion, which is the POINT of the bot games, isn't it?

Lets get rid of this interference, poorly thought out, and now hindering the practice games to the point of chasing players away instead of fostering them to learn. This oxymoronic idea needs to be deleted IMMEDIATELY, before other long term players like myself decide that the ideas which Riot forces down our throats just chase us off, thus killing LoL off, as is the case with many games having ideas put in play long before they are fully thought out.

Poor thinking, Riot, adding this interference into your deigned practice games. We can no longer practice there, so you have no practice arena. Without one, the game will die out.

Your call, Riot Games, but then again, it was your call to add them in the first place, so I don't trust you to take them out. Since I cannot trust these interferences to be removed, I cannot bring myself to play Co-Op games, thus cannot play real game, thus cannot play the game at all.

Since any possibility lies within the Patch Notes, heavily disguised and never brought to the forefront, I will then never know if Riot has done what they need to do, thus no more games can be played. Thus, the adding of this interference is that destructive to game play.

Get your false bots out of the Co-Op games - NOW! I have no time to be wasting fighting our own teammates, being bots, false bots at that. I need to practice my champions in a real setting, not this false one you built for an unknown reason, but the results are terrible.

15 Comments

Micbran6/10/2017, 3:31:11 PM4 votes

Lol this whole bot rant thread. Bots are from players trying to level up accounts without actually playing. Not from Riot filling in spaces. Same thing can be seen with ARAM.

Shuyin1786/10/2017, 3:43:10 PM2 votes

I 1v2 in lane all the time in vs AI with my 400 ping (which is why I haven't been in PvP)

It's not hard to win the 1v2 you take things slow and understand that it is a 1v2 situation even if the bots have downsyndrome. Get what farm you can, get what poke you can, get an item, boom you win lane. Also don't forget that in the 1v2, you are getting more EXP than they are because it's not being divided between you and another player. That ends up with you having level and spell advantage as well.

If I can do it with 400 ping, you should be able to do just fine.

As for junglers in bots, they're practicing. You can only practice paths in Practice Mode, you need actual players on your team to practice ganking. So people go jungle in bots to practice their clear path and how they should gank.

Shuyin1786/10/2017, 3:55:30 PM1 votes

A more detailed discussion regarding your post now.

It is difficult enough when we see players bringing in junglers, for which there is no opposing bot, thus leaving the top lane to be a suicide mission (2 bots versus 1 human).

I refer to my other comment.

I do not know when Riot added this 'unwanted feature'

That wasn't Riot, it's the players using "botting" to level their accounts without playing the game, it is a reportable thing.

When the human team has the selfish jungler champions, the team is further hampered, to the point of losing many games, and not learning about their champion, which is the POINT of the bot games, isn't it?

They are learning about their champion in the jungle, specifically which starting items they should go for, how to clear camps the most effective way, which camp to camp path they should take, and when/how they should gank a lane.

You should learn more about the game before you make a rant on it, just saying.

KC King Caomanac6/10/2017, 4:02:50 PM1 votes

Are we certain that this is player bots and not Riot? They act exactly the same way every time. They just run up near to mid lane, wait for the enemy champ to show up, then go out and play like they want to die. They play the same way every time. How can this be from a program, but worldwide? If so, how is it that Riot cannot determine that and eliminate it? Sorry, but I doubt that this is coming form outside Riot Games since the behavior of the bot is the same every time, This is the same bot program, and only Riot could do that without penalty.

As for winning 1 v 2 lanes, that depends on which champion you take in, and that has already been decided before you even know that your team is hindered by a RIOT BOT (that is the only way that fits a program running the exact same way every time, but with differing world wide players). If you go in with, lets say Soraka, you cannot fight 1 v 2. But it is too late to change that decision, and even your summoner spells to adjust.

Sorry, but this breaks the Co-Op fights, which in turn, breaks the PvP fights since I cannot get the practice that I want and need to have (I grow tired of the in game insults which also do not go away using any reporting system, so why apply that failure in this case?).

Fix your Co-Op fights. If these are truly outside programs, allow your reporting system to be immediate punishment, not after waiting for a Board Review. Since the behavior of the bots in question are IDENTICAL, any such report can be relied upon. Perhaps its own category of bot reporting - one which applies directly and only to these everyday occurrances.

(sometimes I wonder with these games if there really are any developers still on staff to correct errors from these same developers)

ReZisT Lust6/10/2017, 4:22:10 PM1 votes

2v1 against intermediate bots aren't that hard they regularly run under tower to try to hit u...

Jo0o6/10/2017, 4:36:38 PM1 votes

I'm pretty sure this is a symptom of the f2p model. There will always be individuals looking to cheat their way to a max-level account, and if one gets banned, they can always just level another. You can report illegal bots, but whoever is operating them will simply switch to a new account.

But hey, I say bring it on! I don't usually play vs AI games any more, but if I do (for testing something, or to try a new champ, or whatever), it's nice to at least have some challenge. Gimme a feeder or two in my bots games any day; at least now I'll need to put some effort into winning.

(1v2 in top lane vs bots is easy. Let them push under tower without trading, wait until level 2, get some CS, snipe one if they take tower hits. They'll always be lower level than you, with fewer items. The only danger is at the very beginning when they can bully you, but once you're stabilized, you basically get to farm them freely for double the kills that anybody else on your team can get.)

KC King Caomanac6/10/2017, 10:13:30 PM1 votes

Still, I have been seeing far too much of this, and the approach made by these 'bots' are precisely the same every time. I would think then it would be easy for a developer to build a detection for just such behavior, then add our special report which would trigger this small piece of software to check to see if the champion truly exhibits this known behavior. Once identified, the game can be reset, returning the 4 valid players to the lobby, and then finding just one more to have a full compliment.

In short, if we have a chronic problem, there can be an easy solution. It just needs to be built.

My thoughts would allow us to report them, the software to check them, and the game to be reset with valid players.

Why not?

Archeus286/12/2017, 10:16:52 AM1 votes

Im finding this problem they move when minions spawn they autoattack in mid and when they see enmy they attack them adn they go under thier tower feeding them with 16 25 kills And they are starting to do it in the ARAM too

Dethflash6/10/2017, 3:40:24 PM1 votes

Riot doesnt make these bot players on your team in coop vs ai games. People use illegal (to riots policy for league of legends) third party programs to level up the account then they sell the account on online websites. You should report the bots you see on your team under Cheating (third party programs), and intentionally feeding. Riot hasnt talked about fixing this problem so all we can do right now is report the bots to try and get the account banned