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Gamer Life··1 votes·1,778 views

I have read your notifcation and find you are wrong. in it.

Telling someone they need to reasearch the game isnt a rule break.

also you have taken everything that was said out of contect and now you wont deal with it. I would like to speak to your superviser

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ModThe Djinn1 votes

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

and that my fault you cont move and farm at the same time?

maybe you should think before you be so toxic

just because you dont like the aswer and cant move and farm at same time isnt my fault mate

and as it is a team game u will get help from your team. do I have to teach u everything

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

that wasnt toxic and as I have said the question is to Totally Not Jinx

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

that wasnt toxic and as I have said the question is to Totally Not Jinx

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

ofc you would say that because one of use lie use all have to lie

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

that wasnt toxic and as I have said the question is to Totally Not Jinx

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

ofc you would say that because one of use lie use all have to lie

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

telling someone to do there rearch on the game isnt toxic

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

that wasnt toxic and as I have said the question is to Totally Not Jinx

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

ofc you would say that because one of use lie use all have to lie

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

telling someone to do there rearch on the game isnt toxic

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

How about i take everything us said out of content

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gamer Life,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=00000003,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:26:08.750+0000)that wasnt toxic and as I have said the question is to Totally Not Jinx

You specifically asked to speak to a supervisor, and the Heralds are the next step up from moderators. To quote yourself from this very thread: "I would like to speak to your superviser." I'm here now, so I'm handling this situation.

ofc you would say that because one of use lie use all have to lie

I have specifically shown you the quotes that were problematic. There is no lying on my part here -- I have rolled back removals before when I have found them to be too swiftly applied, and I will do so again when I find these instances in the future. You may disagree that the removal was warranted, but that is not the same as it being unwarranted.

telling someone to do there rearch on the game isnt toxic

At no point in the comments I listed there did you say that. You did say that in one other comment which was, as I said, removed as part of the greater clean-up that thread required. The major issues were the quotes I indicated above.

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=000000030000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:31:30.344+0000)

You specifically asked to speak to a supervisor, and the Heralds are the next step up from moderators. To quote yourself from this very thread: "I would like to speak to your superviser." I'm here now, so I'm handling this situation.

I have specifically shown you the quotes that were problematic. There is no lying on my part here -- I have rolled back removals before when I have found them to be too swiftly applied, and I will do so again when I find these instances in the future. You may disagree that the removal was warranted, but that is not the same as it being unwarranted.

At no point in the comments I listed there did you say that. You did say that in one other comment which was, as I said, removed as part of the greater clean-up that thread required. The major issues were the quotes I indicated above.

I said them to make my point that if you cant move and farm when having life steal then that no my problem. That isnt being toxic

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=000000030000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:31:30.344+0000)

You specifically asked to speak to a supervisor, and the Heralds are the next step up from moderators. To quote yourself from this very thread: "I would like to speak to your superviser." I'm here now, so I'm handling this situation.

I have specifically shown you the quotes that were problematic. There is no lying on my part here -- I have rolled back removals before when I have found them to be too swiftly applied, and I will do so again when I find these instances in the future. You may disagree that the removal was warranted, but that is not the same as it being unwarranted.

At no point in the comments I listed there did you say that. You did say that in one other comment which was, as I said, removed as part of the greater clean-up that thread required. The major issues were the quotes I indicated above.

and I am going to belivie a word anyone says at Riot game when the support staff have already lied to me?

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gamer Life,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000000300000001,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:41:09.612+0000)

and I am going to belivie a word anyone says at Riot game when the support staff have already lied to me?

Then I am not sure what you want here. There is not an outcome here where I agree to roll back the comments I have cited above, as those do violate our Universal Rules against belittling comments. If you don't agree with the ruling, that's fine -- ultimately it is our job to ensure that comments that are not within the rules are removed, and we can't always make everyone 100% happy with that outcome. Apologies if you are not satisfied with that answer, but sometimes that is the reality of moderation.

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=00000003000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:44:35.141+0000)

Then I am not sure what you want here. There is not an outcome here where I agree to roll back the comments I have cited above, as those do violate our Universal Rules against belittling comments. If you don't agree with the ruling, that's fine -- ultimately it is our job to ensure that comments that are not within the rules are removed, and we can't always make everyone 100% happy with that outcome. Apologies if you are not satisfied with that answer, but sometimes that is the reality of moderation.

Ok i will go around the board taking every single thing you say out of content and see, if you agree with it then!

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=00000003000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:44:35.141+0000)

Then I am not sure what you want here. There is not an outcome here where I agree to roll back the comments I have cited above, as those do violate our Universal Rules against belittling comments. If you don't agree with the ruling, that's fine -- ultimately it is our job to ensure that comments that are not within the rules are removed, and we can't always make everyone 100% happy with that outcome. Apologies if you are not satisfied with that answer, but sometimes that is the reality of moderation.

Ok i will go around the board taking every single thing you say out of content and see, if you agree with it then!

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=00000003000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:44:35.141+0000)

Then I am not sure what you want here. There is not an outcome here where I agree to roll back the comments I have cited above, as those do violate our Universal Rules against belittling comments. If you don't agree with the ruling, that's fine -- ultimately it is our job to ensure that comments that are not within the rules are removed, and we can't always make everyone 100% happy with that outcome. Apologies if you are not satisfied with that answer, but sometimes that is the reality of moderation.

Give me your office phone number.

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=00000003000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:44:35.141+0000)

Then I am not sure what you want here. There is not an outcome here where I agree to roll back the comments I have cited above, as those do violate our Universal Rules against belittling comments. If you don't agree with the ruling, that's fine -- ultimately it is our job to ensure that comments that are not within the rules are removed, and we can't always make everyone 100% happy with that outcome. Apologies if you are not satisfied with that answer, but sometimes that is the reality of moderation.

Ok i will go around the board taking every single thing you say out of content and see, if you agree with it then!

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=00000003000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:44:35.141+0000)

Then I am not sure what you want here. There is not an outcome here where I agree to roll back the comments I have cited above, as those do violate our Universal Rules against belittling comments. If you don't agree with the ruling, that's fine -- ultimately it is our job to ensure that comments that are not within the rules are removed, and we can't always make everyone 100% happy with that outcome. Apologies if you are not satisfied with that answer, but sometimes that is the reality of moderation.

Give me your office phone number.

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=00000003000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:44:35.141+0000)

Then I am not sure what you want here. There is not an outcome here where I agree to roll back the comments I have cited above, as those do violate our Universal Rules against belittling comments. If you don't agree with the ruling, that's fine -- ultimately it is our job to ensure that comments that are not within the rules are removed, and we can't always make everyone 100% happy with that outcome. Apologies if you are not satisfied with that answer, but sometimes that is the reality of moderation.

even when you get it explain to you. Know one at Riot game ever want to be wrong so what do you do twist thing same old Riot staff

Gamer Life1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:00:42.394+0000)

Hey Gamer Life.

I've taken a look into the removals in question, and my review has found that there has not been an error in that moderator's actions. You're correct that telling someone to re-read or re-research part of the game isn't against the rules. However, being condescending, insult, and belittling is.

These sorts of comments aren't appropriate for the boards, and go above and beyond "telling someone to research" behavior and into "implying someone else is stupid / bad at the game" behavior, which isn't something we tolerate.

In the interests of openness, there were two less problematic (but still slightly antagonistic) posts that were removed, and this was due to the entire sub-conversation being removed. When we remove that much, we often take out the whole chain of discussion, as it's missing so much context at that point that it's pointless to leave it up.

your not a supervier you are some volenteer so dont try to lie and speak eglish

ModKagenoOu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gamer Life,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=00000004,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:37:41.215+0000)

your not a supervier you are some volenteer so dont try to lie and speak eglish

Uh no he is totally our superviser...

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gamer Life,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=E8w8b6bk,comment-id=00000004,timestamp=2018-06-03T16:37:41.215+0000)

your not a supervier you are some volenteer so dont try to lie and speak eglish

I am one of the Heralds in charge of the volunteer team, and as such I am definitely one of the people this concern should go to, and one of the people who reviews moderation actions when necessary. I am also definitely speaking English.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

As the OP's question has been answered and the discussion has spiraled off topic into requests for resolution methods that are not used and threats to follow members of the moderation team around the boards, this thread is being locked now.

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