[GAMEPLAY] No more jungle timers if a buff camp dies and you don't see it.

Now all you get is the minimap icon. The timer on the tab screen doesn't show up anymore. I assume this is a bug, since you can literally time the buff yourself if you watch for the dot to show up... If it's intentional, that's dumb, because of my previous point (see dot -> count to 60 -> which is a thing Riot said they don't want us to be doing to determine skill)

EDIT: This was brought up in another thread:

[{quoted}](name=Brian Damage,realm=EUW,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=glE8BJ6E,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-15T16:50:00.855+0000)

It was always meant to be a replacement for the manual timing. I.e. when you see the clear/clear it yourself you would not have to spam chat with it and use the clunky chatbox to look for timers later. Its simply a QoL improvement and wasnt supposed to make jungle universally visible.

{quoted}

They removed jungle timers?

But now I DO need to spam the chatbox with timers.

Enemy Lee Sin takes his red buff. I have no vision of it. I clear the icon. Okay, his red's gone, cool. A while later, at let's say.... 8:05 I see Lee Sin's "red buff is respawning soon" icon show up on the map. I press tab. I see "-----" (blank) for the timer on the tab screen. So now I have to scream in chat:

#Evelynn: "LEE SIN RED BUFF 9:05"

ie: Entirely defeats the purpose. I hope it's a bug and not intentional.