Inconsistency with Ahri's ult damage to enemies originally in Fog that gain vision from the dash

ValyrianBlade··38 votes·11,501 views

So, I died yesterday when I ulted over a corner to get the last piece of damage needed to kill an enemy Xin (he had like 40hp, guaranteed to die from my ult, I landed right in front of him after going over the corner and the ult did no damage, all my abilities on CD and he lifestealed harder than I could auto attack him).

So I went in to practice tool to see, does Ahri's ultimate do no damage to enemies that were originally in the fog of war, but I gain vision from the dash? The ability clearly specifies that ahri dashes first, THEN shoots the bolts at her enemies, so from the ability description it SHOULD do damage if I gain vision from the dash.

So I placed enemy target dummies in fog of war and tried ulting into them. The result was quite surprising. About 2/3 of the time, my ultimate did damage. About 1/3 of the time, it didn't.

It largely seemed that if I gained vision only towards the end of the dash, or possibly even only if the complete length of the dash wouldn't have gotten me there and I was using a wall to create extra distance, it dealt no damage.

If they were standing in brush and I ulted from near the brush directly into the brush, it dealt damage nearly every time. If they were over a thin wall and my ult easily cleared the wall, it dealt damage every time.

This seems really inconsistent. My ult should either ALWAYS do damage if I have vision after the dash, or ONLY do damage if I have vision before the dash. It shouldn't be this random guess, because then you end up making boosted plays like I described at the start.

10 Comments

Danni Chimes6 votes

I too have seen this happen way too much. So frustrating.

sarii fox3 votes

I hope this gets fixed

Ahri Inari2 votes

Same for bush, that's why you need to ignite before or drop a ward mid dash.

Jungle Pennywise4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ahri Inari,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=isl8nYo9,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-13T17:28:14.189+0000)

Same for bush, that's why you need to ignite before or drop a ward mid dash.

It's kind of disgusting to think that a champion needs to burn a summoner spell just for their abilities to work as intended.

TheGreatNinx1 votes

Yea this needs to fix, thought I think his intent was a quick fix for the time being till the actual problem is fixed. (Which who knows when that is since Mr.Mord here still has 365 bugs and counting that happens with him and not a single fix yet but meh riot might like her a lot more then mord so maybe soon if a rioter catches this post it could happen?)

CytheGuy1 votes

Just a random thought: Maybe if you get vision at the very end of the dash it does not work? If you are just going into a bush or over a thin wall then you might be hitting them because you get vision before the dash ends.

Spice and Wolf1 votes

It happened to me with graves's smoke. He used it and I had no vision on him, my W was active but it didn't target him (I did damage to him 0.5 sec ago so W should've target him). For the ult part I didn't notice anything strange, maybe I was just lucky

Drive My Soul1 votes

bump

BakedLotion1 votes

does it do no damage or do the orbs just not fire?

ValyrianBlade1 votes

{quoted}

does it do no damage or do the orbs just not fire?

Pretty sure the orbs don't fire, but it's hard to tell because there's generally vision lag, where even though the enemy is right in front of you the game doesn't register that you should have vision of them immediately. This vision lag is likely what's causing it to not go off anyways, i.e. just because you should have vision, the game hasn't registered it yet when it's calculating whether to shoot the orbs.

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