Bug? Can't UNDO newly bought items if hit by Global ult at Fountain!

Jasiwel·Jan 13, 2016·1 votes·664 views

I'm not sure how well this issue is known, but if you buy new items at the fountain and are hit by a Global ult, you won't be able to UNDO the purchase you just made.

Last game I got hit by an Ezreal ult from across the map, after buying two longswords at the Fountain, and simply wasn't able to undo the purchase.

Even if this isn't a "bug", it does not feel intentional or at least smooth. If this isn't a bug and just a wonky mechanic, then please delete the thread.

Edit: If you're going to downvote me, at least have the dignity to post why.

6 Comments

TheLastShadow45Jan 13, 20162 votes

That's normal, it considered you in combat and can't undo.

JasiwelJan 13, 20161 votes

I know why the behavior is normal, but I don't understand why it hasn't been an exemption. Leaving Fountain makes sense, being damaged outside of Fountain makes sense, but being in Fountain damaged without being able to refund items? That sounds unintentional.

woelmuisJan 13, 20161 votes

What if you just bought hp to block the global ult damage?

JasiwelJan 13, 20161 votes

You're already in the fountain though...if you're low enough to die from the Global damage then buying HP won't save you because it has to regen in first place.

At the same time, I'm not referring to situations where the enemy is in your base and spamming attacks at you. I'm talking about being in your fountain, no enemies around, accidentally buying two longswords instead of a ruby crystal, and then being smacked by a Global ult. Now I'm stuck with two damage items instead of two ingredients for Phage. Do you see why that's frustrating and makes no sense in the context?

Riot can always place in parameters to prevent abuse in this situation - and why is it even an issue if someone is fast enough/crafty enough to buy Armor/MR to survive a global ult? It's not the same as buying a Zhonyas, using the active and then undoing the buy.

woelmuisJan 13, 20161 votes

Riot has to draw a line somewhere. And in my opinion there is no difference in buying zhonyas and buying MR or Armor. It should not be possible to survive by exploiting the refund system. Making a difference between defence and offence might be possible, as there are, as far as I can think, no champions yet who scale defence on offence. If these champions were in existence, it should not be possible to refund either offence or defence, as you don't want to discriminate. Although it might be frustrating, I think Riot is going well about refunding and possible exploitation.

JasiwelJan 13, 20161 votes

If it's frustrating when it shouldn't be, there is still need for improvement. I think Riot has done a good job with the Undo system, I'm glad it exists in the first place, but I think in this scenario it makes very little sense to behave the way it does.

However, I will not accept a "This is how it is and how it will be" attitude in this situation.