morgana black shield wont block "quinn's" nearsighted
i find this pretty bs...
i find this pretty bs...
This is a weird one since nearsighted only comes from 2(?) other sources that I can think of. Noct ult and Graves Smokescreen. For the other two Black Shield has no business blocking it because.. well it's a shield, it shouldn't magically make you see through smoke or pitch black environments. The application of Quinn's is what makes it weird, because the way hers works absolutely should be blocked by a shield but because it's tagged the same as the other two it just doesn't.
Edit: Civil discussions now get downvoted I guess? Lol
This is a weird one since nearsighted only comes from 2(?) other sources that I can think of. Noct ult and Graves Smokescreen. For the other two Black Shield has no business blocking it because.. well it's a shield, it shouldn't magically make you see through smoke or pitch black environments. The application of Quinn's is what makes it weird, because the way hers works absolutely should be blocked by a shield but because it's tagged the same as the other two it just doesn't.
's block nocturn ulti, idk about smokescreen, but it woudl make sense if it did.
and for that matter morg's W wont proc
or siver spellshield.
which is really a pain in the ass... but i suspect that is intended because its a damage over time
Didn't know that, thanks! I still doubt it blocks Smokescreen though. Definitely the damage, but there's still a cloud of smoke around you. Will test though to be sure.
Pretty sure you're correct. If it's just a constantly applied nearsight though, they could make it so the shield works on it while it's up.
The Quinn interaction really feels bad though.
The reason that Banshee's blocks Nocturne's ult is because it's technically a spell used on every target, like a Karthus ultimate. It does block Graves' Smokescreen, but only the damage, you will still be Nearsighted inside of the AoE
Sivirs spellshield would block aery if morgana used her w on sivir. so if the motive for getting her spellshield was to then q her, then there you go.
But like.. it's a bird that claws your eyes out. I don't think a spell shield can protect you from physical harm. So it logically makes sense right until the part were you can see again then that's just BS
But like.. it's a bird that claws your eyes out. I don't think a spell shield can protect you from physical harm. So it logically makes sense right until the part were you can see again then that's just BS
the thing is physics doesn't apply to league. Like how you can blind lee sin, or how blitz can hook a target heavier than him over instead of getting pulled.
We all know lee sin isn't really blind. http://i.imgur.com/kQMO2uH.jpg
Just like logically a wall of wind can block an incoming rocket...or LIGHT, which literally makes no sense. Morg's black shield blocks all sorts of physical projectiles, so why would a small bird be different?
I agree with the Nocturne point but I disagree about it with Graves. It can block a sun beam from the heavens (Leona's ult) but it is completely ignored by a smoke grenade. It can ignore Cass's "on ground" effects, but what makes Graves smoke screen any different? It can block Teemo's blind, but it can't block Nearsighted?
The logic doesn't follow.
The logic is s solid though.. All those other things just hit you and have an effect. Smokescreen actually alters the environment around you. It surrounds you with smoke. It doesn't poke out your eyes (Teemo and Quinn) cause that can be blocked by.. you know.. blocking, even in real life an actual shield would stop both of these attacks. It wouldn't even need to be a magical shield.
Now apply that same logic to being surrounded by a huge cloud of smoke. If Morgana provided Black Tac Goggles, then yeah maybe you can see through it, but that's not the case.
There are two other sources of nearsight which serve to muddle the matter further: Tahm Kench's devour and Rek'sai's Burrow.
I purposely left Rek Sai out since she can't do it to anyone but herself, but 100% forgot about Kench. Good catch there!
Neither does Olaf Ult. Neither CC immunity ability will block any nearsight, whether it's Nocturne, Quinn or Graves
Malz passive still get poped by them thou.
Malz passive gets popped by the damage aspect of spells not the cc aspect
it's not cc
It floats over your head just like "Stunned", "Slowed", etc.
Other than that, I can't really comment. I main Morg, but I haven't actually fought Quinn in a very long time.
Black sheild blocks 'spell effects' other than damage
Black Shield is a magic (damage) shield that negates cc as long as it holds.
Nearsighted (which 4 champs apply) is not coded as cc, therefore BS doesn't negate Quinn. CC is an arbitrary term which can be any combo of movement and ability impairing, which differs from game to game. The only impairment that Nearsighted puts on you is the inability to use long ranged skills. I guess Riot figured that wasn't a big enough category to really consider Nearsighted CC.
QSS does remove it (but nothing else will). This does seems odd.
You all can downvote this too. I am not agreeing one way or the other. I am just explaining why it is the way it is based on the way RIot has everything set up.
Why is Quinn in quotation marks?
I came here just to point that out
Honestly it blocking Test of Spirit is a bigger problem imho. You already have to hit that slow ass skillshot with little range I don't need to throw it out and give Morgana enough time to E someone before it gets near them if they so happen to actually get "hit" by it.
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Honestly it blocking Test of Spirit is a bigger problem imho. You already have to hit that slow ass skillshot with little range I don't need to throw it out and give Morgana enough time to E someone before it gets near them if they so happen to actually get "hit" by it.
umm thats working as intended..
Test of Spirit isn't really a disable though. That means I should theoretically be able to Cleanse/QSS Test of Spirit aswell which I am 99% sure is not the case.
It applies a non-damaging debuff, and I do believe it slows on initial impact.
The only BS here is Morgana herself. Play a real champ, buddy. You know - something that actually takes more than one button to play and isn't completely braindead.
Actually, the only thing morgana can do as a champion (people normally play her support anyways) is land a Q and be irritating. Frankly, just a bad champion because she sucks.
(btw, nice garen + nasus matches)
All champions take 4 buttons to play. And clicking on the mouse.
Teemo?
L M A O M A O
I agree, Morgana should block all negative status effects with black shield. It should also be reverted to the old form that removes debuff after casting it as it should be.
well black shield also doesn't block terrain based knockups so yay for annoying exceptions.
Well, that's cause otherwise the champion model would bug out and get stuck in an Anivia wall or something. That isn't really an argument on the same level at all. I mean, it isn't like she can put on black shield and suddenly walk through a wall, so it wouldn't make sense for Black shield to suddenly block a piece of terrain.
The point of yas being able to ult you while black shielded is on the same level as the quinn interaction.
Don't try to change my apple into a orange.
that happened to me with out a black sheild
Yeah, and Nocturnes ult pops Malzahars passive.
Didn't know that... Does seem wrong.