I was wondering what is kindred's state ATM. I played him today, and he seems very strong, but I think it's just people still not used to him. And what are chances for him to get ner in next few patches (as it usually happens with new champs). I'm thinking of buying either him or elise for jungling, so any thoughts?
First: Them. Kindred is them, Wolf is he, Lamb is she. Second: no, they are not getting any balance changes in the next patch (no changes at all except some bug fixes). The reason for this is because you have to start getting marks early to become a threat. If you don't, you're pretty useless. They are very susceptible to counter jungling, particularly early game (squishy late game champion) I find them very fun to play unless you fall far behind, and they even work quite well as a traditional ADC too
Erm, "Him"?
Most refer to Kindred as "She" or "them" :L
It's Texas. Kindred's state is Texas.
THEY are champs who fall behind if they don't have 2 kills, but if they get Minorly fed they can play very well, also I recommend j4 due to how versatile his build can be or lee sin because he is so damn fun
elise is one of my favorite junglers so is kindred
both have great sustain great damage id say kindred might be a bit more fun cause the mini game where you have to steal camps is really fun how ever elise is also verry fun and i feel like her level 3 ganks are stronger than kindred, where kindred has a better late game
elise can win early, yet so can kindred, kindred is better as a front line attacker whilst eise is more of an assasin pick-of-the-squishy's to win person
I find in lane Kindred can be rather oppressive. While their jungle is somewhat decent (great in a good jungler's hands). If their jungling the enemy jungler just has to keep on top of the marks (mostly appear in river or enemy jungle) in order to really counter them. In lane the auto-attack heal is downright nasty to go against (for melee lanes its enough pressure to be unable to farm and in bot lane trading can be disastrous for the enemy). Most people tend to run out of Kindred's ult too, forgetting that it keeps everyone alive.
If they do nerf them I hope it's just a small nerf to their laning and not to their jungling.
Kindred is rather weak, you need to collect at least one marked camp to be strong. Even though Kindred's kit is to counter Tanks, some tanks actually counter Kindred, and hard. Even if you know how to play let's say Zac, and Kindred, if the other junglers know how to play Zac and Kindred too, Zac will win. Zac is my favorite counter pick for Kindred due his % damage and with the right build A E + W+ R + W will kill Kindred before they can do anything about it. no AA's, no Ult.
Now with that said, Kindred is just another ADC. Cannot be a frontliner, Kindred needs to wait for someone to make a pick, in other words you need two front liners. As most supports, they are backliners to protect their carry and this is something interesting. Kindred's E and W and the ult offer the best protection for the backline. I would sugest an APC and ADC with a push ability such Tristana, Syndra as for the support Leona, since she is an all-in champion. Hard to come back once she dives. Then another tank to hold back their carries. What I find extremely useful on Kindred is if you build Spirit Visage to use it with their ult, naturally all tanks will get that item, which means Kindred's ult will buff them in health more than Kindred since they changed Spirit Visage to increase the heals from any source. This means, enemy Kindred's ult will work on it. This is a huge disadvantage for Kindred.
And to make Kindred stronger I could also suggest to not take ghost since your Q is on a short CD, and when W's activate it's even in a shorter CD. Taking other spell such Teleport, Ignite, Exhaust is more viable. If you get teleport, and homewards or distortion, that means you can gank more lanes who had the mark and get a kill, get more stacks for your passive.
