Is xin zhao effective at carrying games?

Zyvux·10/19/2014, 9:33:38 PM·2 votes·1,398 views

Also, where would I play him theoretically.

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Deep Terror Nami10/19/2014, 9:45:35 PM1 votes

Jungle or if you like to live dangerously, Top.

I can't say for certain how well he can carry since he makes a good engage tank, but you should just try him out. His kit is pretty fun with its sticking power and if you use the Ultimate correctly.

XxRonaldoxX710/20/2014, 2:45:44 PM1 votes

bruh trust me, go jg xin start with item 3106 then get item 3142 get a brutalizer as first item. JG route should be blue then his second buff. ex. you do bluem then if you are v master yi go to his red ward his red bush so you can see his red buff, but also if he takes him into the bush u can still gank. wait till he is low then outsmite or kill him at then end of his buff, get either e or w as second skill but q + e is highly preffed for higher % of kill. then just gank top after you do ur red, or go bot and gank them , pick up a kill or give it to adc then farm mid/top so you can get fed a little then just build offtank, like item 3160 ,item 3142 , item 3143 ,item 3065 , item 3074 then you should be fine, get a last item of choice try get def dmg item like warmogs and u can carry real quick

Merxamers10/20/2014, 2:59:56 PM1 votes

I play him in the jungle quite a bit; i've seen him played in solo lanes. It doesn't work ever time, but can be effective against mages without hard cc.

Xin is an awesome jungler mostly due to his amazing ganks, and if you do well enough you CAN carry. I typically go 21/9/0 masteries and AD jungling runes for the early game damage, then go item 3209 . Many people prefer the item 3160 , but i've found that the lizard elder works better with his early game power. After that, you should build almost exclusively into tank items, as that is the most effective role for late game Xin. Full damage Xin is hilariously cheese, but unless you are EXTREMELY ahead (like 12 kills at 10 minutes) you will just spend most of the game getting blown up.

For the tank build, it should look something like item 3209 item 3143 item 3065 item 3078 item 3068 item 3075 , the typical stuff. The trinity force can be substituted for something else, but it Xin benefits from everything it offers, so when in doubt build that as your only damage item.

Once the mid-late game starts, during a team fight your job is to jump on the people that don't want a huge spear in their face (AP or AD carries), and then Ult immediately to 1) isolate the target and 2) so the % damage does as much damage as possible. If you built tanky, you should either get the kill or force them away, while surviving yourself.

Pro Tip: Play 'Be a Man' from Mulan while you play Xin.

GrandMa5TR10/21/2014, 5:20:50 AM1 votes

Xin is actually one of the best champ's for carrying yourself.

doubleguac10/21/2014, 5:36:35 AM1 votes

I've absolutely seen Xins hard carry games. The release of feral flare was a big buff for him. He's always had a strong early game. With a feral flare, he can build some early damage, be a monster in the mid game, and still put out respectable DPS late game after he's transitioned to a tankier, initiation role.

Honestly, I think the only reason more people don't play Xin is solo queue is because he isn't picked in professional play. But that doesn't mean he isn't a solid pick in solo queue.

Phatdiamond10/21/2014, 10:52:58 PM1 votes

Can he snowball and kill everyone like yi? no. It doesn't really matter how far ahead xin gets, he's never going to 1v5. But as a jungler he has a lot of advantage, with a low CD gap closer and a slow, knockup and knockback on his ult = a lot of control. Not many other junglers can boast that. I've seen him infrequently in the top lane, but I think there's better options.