Smart way to climb, or not?

S2C2Xd9KOy·Jun 23, 2015·1 votes·667 views

I was playing with a diamond player earlier and he asked me to be his duo partner. He's d5 and Im about to be p5 (Right now Im in g1 series). I figure duoq'ing with him will cause me to lose less lp per loss, and gain way more lp per win (if the average rank in the game is like p1-d4). Ill gain MMR slower because its duoq, but I should technically climb faster just because of the amount of LP per win? Just posting this to be corrected if I'm wrong. Also if anyone knows the maximum LP gain?

8 Comments

Sona PingJun 23, 20152 votes

No, terrible idea. Duo queuing, in all regular circumstances, is an absolutely awful idea.

All but always, what you end up doing is throwing off the MMR matching and putting your own team in a terrible position by forcing them, and likely yourself as well, into unfavorable match-ups playing against opponents who you are not expected to be able to defeat normally because you are being matched with opponents with higher MMR, ranking, whatever due to the matchmaking because you are duoing.

S2C2Xd9KOyJun 23, 20151 votes

Ive played almost strictly soloq and I still maintain an MMR 3-5 divisions higher than I am.

Sona PingJun 23, 20151 votes

Because in all games you are matched using your MMR and not your division, that doesn't matter at all. The facts are still thus: Duo Queueing raises the MMR of your opponents only; it makes your matches harder.

Here's another guy explaining the facts about it: Why you shouldn't Duo Queue.

S2C2Xd9KOyJun 23, 20151 votes

But if my MMR is the same as my duo partners i don't see the difference. i just don't trust 4 people instead of 3 in soloq for a series

AmelieJun 23, 20151 votes

I think the point is that you can expect your other 3 members to automatically lose lane due to the matchmaking disadvantage you put them in. If you and your duo can absolutely dominate (not just "win") your lane(s), then you can overcome this. If not, you aren't helping yourselves rise.

Also I don't think you get as much LP as you think, even if you are against tougher opponents. It's the same (or less) than solo queue.

tonzillacrayonJun 23, 20151 votes

idek how it works anymore my d1 buddy was smurfing on his gold 3 acct, i played with him from plat 5 to d5 was pretty easy won like 10 games in a row. He did have plat 2-3 mmr though but it was really no problem if you both are good and can carry. Honestly depends on how good you are and your duo .