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K54··1 votes·2,967 views

I'm starting to think it's completely fucking random.

If I have 100 lp, in my promos with 1 for 1 game won Why am I last pick, below the guy with 42 losses in row, unranked and has been reported to the extent his account should be permanently banned?

Also, why is "Trolling" not a report option. The vague options we have don't always conform to a troll's action, so there is no consequence for it.

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FHMarshy4 votes

Pick order doesn't have anything to do with Elo. It was announced near the early time of season 4.

I just checked your match history. My god, why would you lie? Did you really check any of your team's stats before saying 42 lose?

The only game you lost as last pick was a long long long time ago, and everyone that picked before you had at least a few ranked wins here and there between the losses.

Why would you lie?

K541 votes

Go to 3 matches ago, the Teemo has 0 wins in 40+ ranked matches. I don't need to lie. Here's the link.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA/40022736?matchType=2

You were saying?

FHMarshy1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1573362516/40022736?tab=overview

10/7/2014

Found in the exact link you posted yourself.

Please tell me you scrolled down on what you just posted yourself.

Jeez lmfao He won 4 out of the last 15. How was that 0 win?

Beside, that game you went 1-16 and he was 4-2

WHy the fuck are you flaming over him LMFAO

fdissht1 votes

Not only that, check the gold chart, in 7 min he gave singed first blood and two more kills, if I was teemo i'd be pissed at you!

It took him about 3min and 46ish seconds to do both buffs, atleast 2 camps, and then proceed to die top. He died 5min 40ish and dies AGAIN at 6min 10ish, that's actually amazing, he had to die (death timer 10-20?) and then TELEPORTS TOP to die again

FHMarshy1 votes

At 5 min the death timers are actually 2.5*level + 5. So I'd say around. He didn't need to TP to make it in time to die at 6:10.

Mr.OP, you didn't think your rage rant would be teared apart in such details before posting this did you?

Please think twice before posting.

fdissht1 votes

thats still amazing, lets assume he's level 4 at the 5:40 mark, a very safe assumption, that's 15 seconds death timer. After dying he has 15-20 SECONDS to make it from spawning pool to top

He'd have to get mobi boots with homeguards and spamming bear stance, which means he disregarded his jungle items and went straight for enchanted boots.

Except he didn;t buy boots till the 15min mark

Now I could be wrong but at MAX he had 30 seconds (45-15=30) to get to top lane AND die, without boots If I had to bet money, I would bet he teleported

P.S. Remember he is dying to a singed, not very well known for his DPS

FHMarshy1 votes

Or he might have just been pissed off and trolled just to get this teemo lmao .

How can you be 1-16 in a game you actually tried against people who are about the same level as you?

fdissht1 votes

trolls complaining about trolls wut do?

K541 votes

Actually, I started jungle with no leash since there were "duo mid" At about 4 minute mark singed was already level 6 due to his easy cs, we all know Singed free farms while minions attack turret, so when I went up to lane at level 3, he actually killed me before I made it to the turret. The other kill he dived me under the turret then ignited me. I teleported back to lane to try to save the turret (I actually used the turret for my TP) but it was destroyed a few seconds after arrival and I was killed again. You also failed to mention that Vi assisted almost every one of his kills except maybe 1 or 2.

It should also be noted that a not upgraded smite doesn't suffice against champs with lane spells. By your guys logic, I should have focused on jungling and just left top lane unattended, correct?

Please tell me what you would do in this situation, I'd love to get a good chuckle out of this.

fdissht1 votes

Here's where the big lie is, you need 9 minion wave of exp to hit lvl 6, the first minion wave hits lane about 2min mark and a new one will hit every 30 seconds, do the math.

Singed doesn;t have a huge burst spell, fling is his ONLY source of burst and I doubt he was maxing that first. There is no way he one combo'd you like an annie does, you must of kept getting poisoned, trying to farm, and then stayed at turret with low hp.

If there is a duo mid (which teemo should've been mid because he had pick priority), try to camp or take mid turret first. That's mid turret for top turret, and then do drag, or even go bot, gank, and get drag. Yea you can leave top for the first 6min ish, if it can get you a turret+drag or turret+kills.

K541 votes

What part of Teemo wasn't doing anything don't you understand? I'm not saying he was trying and failing, I literally mean he was intentionally not doing anything, just sitting next to tturret, invisible. No AA, no spells cast, nothing!

What part of Vi and Singed killed me, notice the death report says those kills are assisted. Never said Singed killed me by himself, you jerk.

fdissht1 votes

You never said that, even though he has more kills, more assists, and 8 TIMES more death....sooooo.

You stated: Teemo had no ranked wins Singed was lvl 6 at 4min Knows how many reports this teemo has

All of which are lies, I don't believe you when you said teemo did nothing either because of his score.

Where's this death report? Why not use your trinket? How did you get baited?

But then again you died 16 times so......

K541 votes

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FHMarshy1 votes

LMAO someone is mad that he got called out and realized himself he is making no sense lmao

FHMarshy2 votes

Also, your so called "unrank" was that He was ranked last season, just unranked this one.

I think you really need to go back to pre 30 and learn what spell would optimize your chances of winning before coming here and cry about your team mates.

Heal and TP every game derp "why do i get trolls on team every game?"

K541 votes

Heal? I've never taken heal unless I'm support. Troll harder.

FHMarshy1 votes

Ya heal and TP were just examples.

You took TP instead of flash for Wukong jungle.

You took Ignite instead of heal/barrier for ADC,

You took heal+Clarity on Support

The generally accepted spells:

Jungle : Flash/ghost + smite

Adc: Flash + heal/Barrier

Support: Flash + exhaust/heal/ignite.

Pick better.

Beside, that wasn't your point of this post was it?

You were presenting falsified information in order to justify your bashing to another player.

K541 votes

You totally just pulled all of that out your ass. Somebody report this guy for trolling. You don't take heal if you have a fucking Sona/Soraka/Kayle/Lulu/Janna/Taric/Braum supporting you dumbass and you don't need a freaking barrier.

I choose my summoner spells based off the rest of the teams summoner spells. My TP is normally used to jump to a ward in deep bush. So I spawn behind the enemy when I gank, meaning the have to run through me to get back to their turret. Easy kills.

There is no SET go to build/summoner spells cause every match is different from playstyle, the people you play with, the champions being used for both allied and enemy sides. If there was a staple, they wouldn't give you the fucking option.

Stop trolling, you look dumb and I'm going to continue to call you out on your bullshit.

FHMarshy1 votes
  1. So you can actually see other people's report? Damn that's new

  2. LMAO you take heal/barrier for your own survival. Do you even know how to play this game ffs.

  3. TP on Udyr is ok, on wukong? Please tell me who else does it by you?

  4. Yes, but if you want to win, there are easy optimal choices that you are not taking

Stop trolling, you look bad(and you probably are) and I'm going ton continue to call you out on your bull shit.

It's ok to keep doing things your way. Probably why you are bronze 5 and I am plat 1 :) Whatever floats your boat son

Provengreil2 votes

Allow someone to put this in a less flamey way:

Just because you can take TP, doesn't mean it's necessarily a good idea. Flash can get wukong's ult wherever he needs it to be with no reaction time for the enemy, or pull you out of a bad spot. Just because there's a heal on your team doesn't mean that champ will be present when you need it. investing in your own survival is often vital as a carry, as they not only determine who wins a teamfight but whether any meaningful objective can be taken afterwards, sometimes.

So you're right. There IS no set summoner spells tied to a champ, or they'd just be more basic abilities. But there's a reason only karthus ever takes revive, there's a reason flash has like a 98% use rate. His methods and attitude are off, but his advice is actually pretty much spot on. So please, don't be the standard bearer for this community's raging stereotype, ok?

Fizz is not Fish2 votes

Yes, it is random. They documented it in 4.* patch.

Space Bum1 votes

Interesting fact: If you indeed saw someone with that many loses and they are unranked, it is probably someone who bought a bot account. A sign of a dumb botter as well...

fdissht1 votes

used to be based on elo....until they changed it Probably because it caused problem when high elo duo que with low elo and always gets first pick

rth21 votes

Actually, one of the big problems from back in the day when elo was used as the benchmark for everything was people's attitudes towards other players. For example :

3rd pick : Hey guys! I want to mid please.

2nd pick : F* you! I'm better. Why do you think you're 3rd pick? Mid is my main! Go F* yourself baddie!

These types of comments happened all the time. I had somebody who told me I was bad, had terrible elo, no skills, blah blah... they were 3 elo above me. As in if i was 1254 they were 1257. But by the elo standard that was being shown and held up by the game, they were better because there number was higher.

Now that MMR/Elo are hidden, this is no longer an excuse for this behavior in pick order. All you know in solo queue ranked is that you are around the same MMR. You may have different divisions/tiers, but your MMR is about the same.

I believe they basically hid Elo and set up the Tier/Division structure to try and cut down on elo elitism; if you will.

Renaille1 votes

{quoted}

If I have 100 lp, in my promos with 1 for 1 game won Why am I last pick, below the guy with 42 losses in row, unranked and has been reported to the extent his account should be permanently banned?

Because you have similar mmr.

3tyson1 votes

i think everything you do wich doesnt work out good could be considerd trolling to some ? there for everyone could be reported for troling ?

if a jungler pings omw but stil to far and the laner jumps in on ping he be like you wasnt there you trolled me

than everyone doing something non meta will be reported for troling

i think that might be the reason not sure do

Angry Monster1 votes

congrats it is completely random.

BluePolarizer1 votes

you are bad. accept that in order to improve.

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