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"Skarner is just counter ganking us"

TouchpadExpert··1 votes·704 views

Said my jungler a couple nights ago. So when an enemy jungler simply counter ganks wherever your jungler is, whats the strategy for properly handling this? Ideally from a laner's perspective but also from the perspective of the jungler too if someone feels like giving that perspective.

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Variks the Loyal4 votes

Ward. Ward everywhere. If you see the counterganker coming, stop the gank, or quickly collapse on him.

Make it a counter-counter gank. Call your mid laner or support to help.

Code1 votes

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Ward. Ward everywhere. If you see the counterganker coming, stop the gank, or quickly collapse on him.

Make it a counter-counter gank. Call your mid laner or support to help.

yeah this. gank when you see him elsewhere, if you got his jungle warded and he's mia, he could be in a sidebush or nearby

Zmuecat1 votes

Wards are pretty much the answer to anything jungler related.

TouchpadExpert1 votes

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Ward. Ward everywhere. If you see the counterganker coming, stop the gank, or quickly collapse on him.

Make it a counter-counter gank. Call your mid laner or support to help.

I should probably have pointed out that this happened on Twisted Treeline where wards are unavailable.

Only Play Darius1 votes

You don't.

TouchpadExpert1 votes

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You don't.

Surely there's something that can be done about it.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Nope. A countergank is one of the worst situations you can put yourself in.

Kei1431 votes

Ward and know when they are coming as mentioned with other posters.

Or take their camps instead. But you'll need some map awareness to make sure you are safe from collapse from lanes.

If you don't ahve that awareness, then wards would help.

did I mention wards?

BruisingEmu1 votes

As a jungler or as a player in general it'll become good to try and keep track of the enemy jungler. It's a lot to think about on top of your own thing, I know. But if you try to notice these things once in a while it'll become easier to learn to manage that one more thing.

It's not really any one person's "job" (You could say it's your junglers job, but I'd say it's more of a team effort) to keep track of the enemy jungler. But if you have any way of knowing their position then ping "careful"

You're mid and your opponent suddenly disappeared just as blue buff is spawning? Ping their blue.

If they gank top just double-click top lane on your mini-map and hold it for a moment to see how much health everyone has afterwards. When you let go of your mouse the map will snap back to you. Knowing the windows of when their jungler is either busy/away/low health as opposed to MIA for the last minute or so should be a big factor in your decision making in lane.

Mid laners. This is how you know which side to put your trinket on when you're out of wards.

Though tbh Skarner would be difficult to keep track of since he traverses his jungle so fast and ridiculously healthy right now.

Also, as stated before. Buying that extra ward when you back, and finding that moment to put it just a little bit deeper into the enemy jungle then your typical defensive ward makes such a huge difference.

Meep Man1 votes

You call in help and then an early game team fight happens.

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