Attack speed vs lifesteal/dmg on Vayne

Hollabakatchya·8/18/2015, 10:39:24 PM·1 votes·1,011 views

I just bought Vayne yesterday, and of the many questions I have about her the biggest is what is more effective on her when deciding on attack speed or lifesteal. The way I see it is that lifesteal synergizes well with her Q, while attack speed is more geared toward her E. While I understand its largely situation dependant, some insight to her would be awesome as I think her mechanics are pretty hard and I'de like to improve as quickly as possible. Thanks

8 Comments

The Fast8/18/2015, 10:48:59 PM1 votes

Why bother choosing when Blade of the Ruined King gives all 3 AND self peel?

tseihei8/18/2015, 11:10:46 PM1 votes

attack speed makes autos faster, which means that your animations are faster, which means that you can kite better, which means that your damage is actually higher than if you had ad items because you aren't dead because you can kite.

vayne doesn't scale with ad very much, but her kit is much better with attack speed, unlike graves.

IcyPepper8/18/2015, 11:28:20 PM1 votes

Your main items on Vayne are going to be: bork, boots, phantom dancer (more AS, crit, and sweet movement speed), last whisper (believe it or not, most of her damage is actually physical. You don't want to over-rely on her W). The last two items differ from game to game I believe, but many people tend to go for Infinity Edge of AD and stronger crits, and then a last defensive item (can be GA, can be scimitar, banshees, hell even spirit visage or bloodthirster. It really depends).

So in other words, get bork first and then attack speed. Lifesteal can wait.

Hedønist8/19/2015, 12:03:50 AM1 votes

item 3153 item 3006 item 3046 item 3031 item 3035

Airship Bishop8/19/2015, 9:27:27 PM1 votes

If you farm well I usually build vayne like this

Starting items item 3340 item 1055 item 2003

First back (1400+ gold) item 3144 item 2003 x2

First back (Less than 1400) item 1053 item 1001 item 2003 x2

Buy item 3342 after your support has item 2049 and item 2043 as needed

Build item 3153 then finish item 3006

After that I almost always get item 3046 (item 3087 gives a bit more burst and is cheaper, this is a preference buy on which you want)

Then item 3072 (defensive) or item 3031 (offensive)

At this point your build should look something similar to this

Defensive: item 3006 item 3153 item 3046 item 3072

Aggresive: item 3006 item 3153 item 3046 item 3031

I recommend rounding your build out with a item 3035 and some kind of defensive item. If you really need more damage pick up item 3072 or item 3031, whichever you didn't get earlier.

I highly, highly recommend considering item 3026 for general damage and tankiness. item 3102 for dealing with abilities you can't cleanse, such as Nidalee Spear, Blitzcrank/Thresh Hook, Nautilus Pull/Ultimate.

item 3140 -> item 3139 against abilities such as Ahri Charm or other CC that needs to be removed.

Feel free to pick up item 3140 as your third or fourth (after finishing item 3046 or item 3072 ) If you are facing CC that is hurting your ability to teamfight. DO NOT UPGRADE IT UNTIL YOU ARE FULL BUILD, item 3139 IS VERY GOLD INEFFICIENT FOR DAMAGE.

In teamfights your main priority should be getting as many attacks off as possible, Vayne does heavy amounts of true damage to tanks and combined with your item 3153 item 3035 you can melt tanks. It's A-OK to focus a tank down but damaging a carry is more important IF IT'S SAFE

To get more to the point, the highest sustained dps build looks something like

Single target tankbuster: item 3006 item 3153 item 3046 item 3031 item 3072 item 3035

Burst assassin: item 3006 item 3153 item 3087 item 3031 item 3078 item 3072

Recommended: item 3006 item 3153 item 3046 item 3072 item 3035 item 3026

If you're looking to really learn what vayne is capable of I would highly recommend watching this you can find the whole game here Imp is one of the best vayne players in the world and really showcases the champions strengths.

Good luck on your adventure into the wonderful world of Vayne

Ace Access 9/17/2015, 1:05:41 PM1 votes

always rush item 3153