Is there any real counterplay to a talented Fizz?

Hollabakatchya·9/17/2015, 3:40:10 AM·1 votes·1,005 views

Title says it all. I know he's not OP in any way, but it seems like if the player can just manage mana and not feed than it's almost impossible to kill him. Even more so once he gets a Zhonyas. Any tips on how to sucessfully 1v1 a good Fizz?

6 Comments

Axests9/17/2015, 8:34:38 PM2 votes

hit him while his e is down

disregardable9/17/2015, 3:45:47 AM1 votes

Yeah, it's called poke...

WalkingInACircle9/17/2015, 4:11:55 AM1 votes

Fizz is pretty reliant on his troll pole, you generally can only strike him after he uses it. But as he relies on its damage and slow, a bit of patience can force it out.

You also have to stop him from bursting you with his ult, which requires either substantial MR or zhonya's/QSS to dodge it. Even with that its no easy task to beat him.

On the bright side, he's melee, so ranged can harass him and kite him to force him into using troll pole to get the untargetability out of the way. That's when you can hit Fizz hard.

IsmokeOregano9/17/2015, 8:32:04 PM1 votes

As a fizz main yes, understanding his mechanics is key, however. Yes, he is somewhat reliant on his "troll pole" but this is not what makes fizz dangerous, and honestly i don't get the hate behind it. Vladimir is way worse in the un-targetable aspect, but no-one hates him.. anyways. Don't let fizz get between you and your allied minions, it gives him twice the escape potential as he can choose to use his playful/trickster or dash back to minions, or both. A good fizz won't use his e as an engage and you will never bait it out of him, he will sit on it as a disengage or a gap closer only if it will secure the kill. Watch his trident, when its lit up it usually means he's preparing to jump on you, STAY BACK, and as soon as its down is a good time to engage him as his w is his main source of damage. Keep a trick up your sleeve if possible, fizz is a cocky player. If you're low health he will dive you and troll pole out of turret shots, save zhonya's hourglass or stuns/heals for crucial moments like this and turn the tide to your favor. If you're below 1/4 health be very very cautious (just recall seriously), his damage over time can kill you easily, especially combined with an ignite and/or liandry's torments passive, as well as the fact his damage is based off % missing health. If you get caught in this situation you're better off trying to kill him as well because he will run away laughing while you wither to death if he catches you. Try to always always take health potions with you and keep your % missing health low as possible, trust me its worth the money. Fizz's ult is a slow moving skill shot and depending on his play-style can be predictable. A fizz will usually either throw it as an engage, to get the slow, catch you, and all in 100-0; or he will save it for a finisher when you under the turret and think you're safe or running, or lastly if he has exhausted all other escapes he may use it to slow you to get away. Save flashes for when you see his fish coming, not to jump walls, fizz can jump walls too and not even expend a flash so its senseless to try to escape him in this fashion. Don't dive a fizz, ever. If fizz is a bad player he will use playful/trickster to clear minions waves leaving himself vulnerable for attack or ganks. A low mana fizz is an easy kill, playful/trickster uses a high chunk of mana. If you are in a draft pick fashion consider taking barrier, it can save your life from his Damage over Time and possibly his ult as well. Good counters to him is anyone with hard CC, Shields, Health Regen, and/or deceiving abilities. The best match-ups against a fizz are: Morgana - Spell shield is a great defense against fizz's ult, the stuns can shut him down completely Fiddlesticks - silence, lifesteal, high damage ult+ zhonyas is a hard counter Fiora - counters everybody, right? xD Leblanc - Clones can bait out fizz's ult, high burst damage, stun Sivir - spell shield and poke Zed - good range and poke, can dodge fizz's ult. ZED'S ULTIMATE COMPLETELY CANCELS FIZZ'S IF USED AFTER OR BEFORE FISH LANDS AND BEFORE SHARK ERUPTS! HOWEVER, fizz can also hop in his troll pole to cancel Zed's ult as well, so time ult cautiously. Yasuo - windwall blocks ult, just as much mobility as fizz Fizz - naturally, can dodge other fizz's ult with troll pole even after it lands. Vladimir - Again can dodge fizz's ult, good lifesteal to compensate for DoT Cassiopeia - DoT is stronger than fizz, has more range, has stun ult Heimerdinger - if fizz wants to hurt you he will do it at the cost of A LOT of mana, and generally is too weak to dive into the dongers zone of inevitable demise, plus he has no range to hit turrets unless he wants to walk up to it or dash on it leaving himself vulnerable or again at the cost of a lot of mana.

Their Jungler9/17/2015, 9:07:29 PM1 votes

Annie Orianna Lulu Very safe picks