Hey guys, so I was wondering if it would be somewhat viable to build
as an AP Bruiser, I'm definitely used to the idea of a bruiser, or even just a full tank with a nice amount of damage with little to no items like 
or 
with a 
. But I'm finding with that I wish he had a bit more damage, so I was thinking that maybe putting some AP into his build should be something to consider. Off the top of my head I came up with these possibilities.
SOLO TOP:
JUNGLE:
If you want to go bruiser on Zac, I'd recommend building him similar to old elise. Liandry's is gonna be good, with four other tank items, or I especially like the idea of using Abyssal when the rework goes live, as that's been nice on the PBE.
I love your idea! I may have to try it this weekend when I play some games. Here are my thoughts / questions regarding it.
Which jungle enchantment is that?
Liandry's is perfect for this, it adds a lot of damage for him because he has so much disruption. If you want to go ap bruiser / add damage that is the first item you should get towards damage. I would even get it in the jungle.
is a fantastic Item for Zac, no matter what build he is going. The increased healing is just awesome with his blobs.
I don't think Zac would need a zhonyas because the immunity just keeps him from continuing to cast spells in a fight.
Something to consider is Twin Shadows because of the movement speed and the active can help you to catch targets and prevent them from juking your slingshot jump. Also that slow can help count for cc to up Liandry's torment damage if you use w and your other spells are on cooldown.
I don't see the use of this, Zac already has plenty of engage and cc. If you were going for burst damage then maybe... but only if you stacked health, at which point you'd be building tank.
The immolate passive of these items helps add DPS, and synergizes with so you might want to consider getting one of these too. If you go top you could even substitute Sunfire Cape for Dead Man's Plate in your build.
You could also consider building this on your top build, it's not necessary at all. If you are trying to fill item slots it does provide both health and ap, which are stats that bruiser Zac can use.
These opinions are my own, and I do not claim them to be fact. They are just what I believe.
Regards, HalcyonDweller
been doing this since the day i bought him.
Looks good for the most part.
I would say get rid of Zhonya's and Dead Man's plate and replace them with tankier items though.
From what I've seen in lpl and lpk, he's good with liadry's and rylai's as damage, and everything else is to help build him as a tank (cinderhulk if you're jungling). I view DMP as more of an ad tank item for those who don't risk being slowed/interrupted (which cuts the passive's damage) so I'd skip that.
I know you'd probably like more damage, but trust me, I did too but then I realized he does a lot of damage already with just two AP items and the rest tank. Even when I jungle, a cinderhulk (or bami) and no other items still allows me to do plenty of damage.
That said I can't say I'm a fan of full tank Zac come late game. I don't see him doing anything relevant if he dives the backline. The enemy frontline is probably keeping you separated from your team and the enemy carry is probably healing up a storm.
if your going for a ap version of zac you should just go with full ap
Pretty sure AP Zac is the only way to play Zac.
AP bruiser Zac can actually work well; I know some LCS dude who made full ap jungle Zac work pretty well
Jesus no pls not Zac.
I think AP Bruiser would be better for Top Lane since lanes tend to get gold quicker in the early game. That way he can get to his middle game power for initiating quicker. Thats just me though.
