Before you start playing ranked...

PL55·Mar 28, 2015·18 votes·2,566 views

... play jungle and support at least 20 or so games so you can know what is expected of them in your elo. There have been too many games where I get harassed as the jungler because one of my laners has had to wait 10 or so minutes for a gank, then they proceed to troll. It's really annoying when you are trying to stay ahead in gold and xp so that you are strong enough that a gank will be a guaranteed kill or flash burned. I'm not claiming to be a perfect or even a good jungler, but sometimes people can be unreasonable. This should also be true for any other lane, I personally used to think all adcs are trash but after playing adc a few times in team builder I realized it was harder than I thought. So basically play every role, especially jungle or support, before you start playing ranked so you know how patient you have to be with your teammates.

33 Comments

ModelTMar 28, 20154 votes

This is some solid advice. I'd also suggest learning about all the champs you can, or at least the popular ones, so you know their strengths, weaknesses, counters, and what they counter.

AND two more bits of advice. Don't get stuck in an "item path." Remember to limit each champ you play to two items you really ought to build to fill their role well, and leave 3 slots (because boots) for situational items, and know what items are good for your champ to fill what you need. Second, learn Map awareness! This is the best skill you can have in LoL.

ALSO... remember not to be a fucking troll. If people are lacking skills (assuming you're at a lower ELO...) BE HELPFUL, not a deuch. People don't improve because you tell them they suck, especially if you keep saying it over and over and over.

Zindan3Mar 28, 20152 votes

This is a solid peace of advise. I can't tell you how many times I've seen it. You get in a game and one of the bot lane champs is getting the other killed. rather than yelling and cussing at them, ask them to do things differently. You will catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Also if you only have one or two rolls that you are good at you probably shouldn't play ranked. You need to be at least proficient at all roles. You don't have to be great at them but you need to be able to be an asset to the team no matter where you get stuck.

Spacesuit SpiffMar 29, 20151 votes

if you know jungle and sup, you can get them 99% of games. dodge the 1%. "mid or feed" people are ridiculous though.

Spacesuit SpiffMar 29, 20153 votes

Good list. Also, understand what you don't know about the game. I constantly run into kids throwing fits because they don't know how other champs work, like those famous bronze quotes 'report mundo ulted himself instead of me' 'why buy a tear jayce isnt ap you troll gg'. It's ok not to know everything, but you shouldn't yell bad advice at people because you think you know how to build Amumu because you play Malphite a lot.

SeductiveGrandpaMar 29, 20154 votes

Before you start playing ranked: DON'T F(Censored by Rito Games)ING TEST OUT THE NEWEST CHAMPION YOU JUST BOUGHT.

Spacesuit SpiffMar 29, 20152 votes

Thresh "Calm down I gotta learn this guy somehow"

DswujRrrKhMar 29, 20151 votes

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"Calm down I gotta learn this guy somehow"

Or Bard

I Kill CommiesMar 28, 20153 votes

10 minutes is pretty long for 0 ganks...

krawkawMar 28, 20153 votes

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10 minutes is pretty long for 0 ganks...

Depends on the situation.

Wint3rSoldi3rMar 28, 20154 votes

As you farm the jungle, if nearby laners have pushed their lanes far up, there might not be ganks for a while.

Shiroi KitsuneMar 28, 20152 votes

There's this little thing called an "in-lane gank" ;)

junglerboy16Mar 28, 20151 votes

Doesn't help if you have to dive a full HP enemy under tower.

What you really look for when they are pushed up is a countergank.

Shiroi KitsuneMar 29, 20151 votes

While I would definitely agree that counter-ganking is probably the best kind of gank, I would also question why you would try to dive someone if you're doing an in-lane gank? An in-lane gank is when you move into the lane out of enemy vision through the side bushes. Then when the wave gets pushed back towards the middle, you either jump on them or wait for one of them to face-check you.

junglerboy16Mar 29, 20151 votes

My point is that it doesn't matter whether you lane gank or gank from the side when all your lanes are pushed to the enemy tower, because ganking that lane will always be a tower dive.

I know very well what the different types of Ganks are, but lane banks are only helpful if the lane ever stops being pushed, and for some reason, my laners always tend to keep it pushed right up to the enemy tower the whole time.

Shiroi KitsuneMar 29, 20151 votes

I don't know, I've always found that if you communicate what you intend to do, that your laners tend to do what you need them to do to make it work. One of the best ways to fail every gank you try is to assume that you have useless teammates who will do nothing, and to not communicate with them at all.

junglerboy16Mar 29, 20151 votes

I ping "on my way" They shove the lane in. I type "back up so I can gank them" they walk back while the minions are pushed in and look at me like I'm stupid for not diving. I type again "bait him in" They proceed to dive him under tower and yell at me "WTF N00B? you told me go in and then stood there! /all report troll jungler". I walk away sad and confused that they don't seem to have a brain.

Shiroi KitsuneMar 29, 20151 votes

Hmm, maybe you and I just get different kinds of players. There is definitely the odd-person who is like that, but as for the majority, I tend to get people who will listen as long as you seem half-way competent.

junglerboy16Mar 29, 20151 votes

Yeah, I don't get those players very often, but I was talking about the people that always shove in, and that is the scenario I thought we were discussing (all lanes constantly shoved).

Spacesuit SpiffMar 29, 20151 votes

Every time I try that, the laner just keeps shoving waves in until I give up and leave. It can be a useful strategy, but putting myself at the mercy of a soloquer is just too frustrating.

Shiroi KitsuneMar 29, 20151 votes

There is definitely some truth to that. To be honest I don't do it too much myself as I'd rather be farming than trying to pull off a janky gank that requires my teammates to actually understand what I'm doing.

IcyPepperMar 29, 20151 votes

You won't get much if they're pushed too far up. Laners need to position properly if they want a happy jungler :V

As a jungle main, I'm happy to gank as much as possible, but I'm not going to gank with melee champions if everyone is pushing to tower.

Shiroi KitsuneMar 29, 20151 votes

I actually find that this particular technique works quite well with some melee champions, in particular I'm thinking about Rengar and Sejuani and they have both strong cc, and high enough damage that if the opposing side is caught unaware it's either instantly pop flash or they're a goner (though Rengar's charged bola, and Sejuani's q/r are typically enough cc to prevent even the flash). As to your other point, I would say that if you are going to try something like this you definitely need to communicate what you are doing to your laner first, otherwise they might not realize that they need to allow the wave to push back.

50CrazyOwnzMar 29, 20152 votes

don't talk like you know how to do it. you spent 2 much time waiting for a in-lane gank and how about mid you gonna inlane gank that too? you wait too much and becomea lower lvl which means you fall down like a rock go and do some study bitch before you go and blame more junglers

Shiroi KitsuneMar 29, 20151 votes

Ok, so a couple of things. First off, I'm a jungle main, so yes I "know how to do it". Secondly, you can't in lane gank mid, unless you count someone like rammus trying to go in through the front. That it just a pointless straw-man fallacy you have constructed. Thirdly, you do gain experience while you do an in-lane gank since the minions will be dying around you. Now this obviously won't be nearly as much as if you were farming you jungle since it's split with 2/3 people, but it isn't negligible. Fourthly, in-lane ganks are in my opinion the riskiest type of gank as they are the most time consuming, but are often the most powerful if one gives them time to go off. Fifthly, why would you assume that I'm blaming junglers, when I main it myself? What I'm instead doing is pointing out to an alternate technique that is specifically made for when the lane is normally ungankable because of how far up it is pushed. And on a Sixth and more minor note, you may wish to "do some study" on how to form the present-progressive tense before you try to use a phrase that necessitates it to try to form your flimsy and meaningless ad hominem attack. ;)

agbudarMar 29, 20151 votes

pff their fault for being pushed to enemy turret. pointless being completely reckless and dive unless they are low health (which they almost never are)

GaleWinUnleashedMar 28, 20152 votes

I remember thinking that playing ADC was hard. So I tried it a few times.

I sucked.

I still think ADC is hard.

And so I still play mainly Support, making the ADC's job easier.

ÅronMar 29, 20152 votes

Here's a tip: Before you start playing ranked, jump off of a building.

That way, you can't play ranked.

Thank me later, if you're not dead.

PL55Mar 29, 20152 votes

I was starting to play ADC for the past few days, then I realized how hard it is to be one. I used to just think that ADC mains were just always mad for no reason, but they legit get so much abuse, and I play jungle. Laning phase is okay as long as you don't die or feed, but after that is where it gets hard. Your team wants you to be with them all the time in the team deathmatch that is bronze, but it's also kind of important to not lose that bot turret. My last game as Vayne I got fed, but my mid laner (who was feeding) felt there was a need to roam bot all game, even when I just backed, and fed our Draven. Long story short Draven got fed, I couldn't do anything, and the blame got put on me. You know why? I wasn't helping Katarina feed Draven because I just backed. I get a double kill in team fight and start clearing the waves to push while team gets ambushed chasing a kill, next thing you know you got the Taric writing in chat "F**king idiot vayne farming instead of team fighting" I got reported by him post game for unskilled. I even asked the enemy Draven post match how I was throughout the game. Direct quote: PL55: Honestly Draven was I that bad? (Taric): very (Draven): No you were actually okay, our team comp helped us out (Taric): you were terrible we lost because you were farming (Taric): reported for unskilled PL55: What I had to deal with this entire game can you imagine? After playing ADC for the past few days I actually understand sometimes it's hard to play as them. I also found out the perspective of the ADC being completely toxic while the support is an angel (not always true of course) is very inaccurate. Well, my own advice did me good I wish everyone would do this.

PL55Mar 29, 20151 votes

woops a bit of a rant over here

Spacesuit SpiffMar 29, 20151 votes

I'm sympathetic, but you basically do have to just follow your idiot team in bronze. Or better yet, spam ! pings until they stop chasing.

Spacesuit SpiffMar 29, 20151 votes

Agreed. I just had this mid laner flipping out at me for ganking through the back instead of the warded river... "omg dont go into their jungle they have khazix you idiot". Completely ignored the gank while typing this.

DeloricVIMar 29, 20151 votes

Dude, not even that can help some of these guys. Couple stories...

I was supporting a Sivir, and she goes in lane and she's going nuts with her attack that bounces all around the minions, and she's clearing waves, and pushing down lane, and I'm all like... "Uh, why are we pushing right now?" And this Siv just says "Why would we not be pushing." Next thing I know, the enemy jungler, Trundle, comes down river and wrecks us both. "That's why," I posted in chat. "You should have warded," Sivir said back. "I did, you just didn't look at your map. Not that it would have helped because you had no mana, we were at the enemy tower, and trundle has pillar of ice." .... "Your ****** retarded." <actual quote

There was this other time where I was in lane with a Jinx. The other team was Caitlyn - Sona, and I was explaining that they don't synergize well because Sona works best in a sustain lane, and Cait works best in a poke lane. It could work, but it isn't optimal. We have a decent kill lane, so we might be able to win lane relatively easily. And she follows up with... "What's a poke lane?" A few more gems of dialogue told me she was genuinely confused. The same thing happened when I mentioned sustain lane. Idiots....

soulbanana8Mar 29, 20151 votes

It can be super frustrating to play jungle sometimes. If I'm playing a farm jungler that requires lvl 6 to gank, I am only ganking when the kill is assured 100% or if a summoner can be burnt.