The reason why ELO Hell Exists

AsianPoonHunter·Aug 2, 2015·2 votes·1,295 views

It isn't that players are so god awful that you can't win - because you can. You can literally tell your team exactly what to do and how to play to win. Even if they are bad players it does not matter you can still win.

The reason that ELO hell exists however, and why some games are unwinnable are because of pig headed teenagers and 20 some odd yeared man children. Take for instance my experience. I main support and jungle. I have been in silver since season 2 and been to 31 promos. In silver I fly thorugh 5-1 no matter what and get stuck @ promos and then usually have a huge losing streak because mmr matches me with a "certain" kind of player once I reach too high without crossing the streams.

There is no game you cannot come back from even if your team is bad - they key is that they just need to listen to the guy who knows hat I am doing. I have over 1k games as support, not as many as jungle but playing these roles - I know macro strategy. I know how to win games. When we have an advantage - I am shouting to my team "GROUP 5". When we are down - "Defend 4 ward objectives player X split push for us and ward up so you don't get caught".

I am no pro but the tiny nuances of when and what to do I do know pretty well. Even if we are behind I can speak about a strategy that will win us the game - it has been out long enough and simple enough it isn't hard to do. What really makes ELO hell a reality however is that MOST PLAYERS IN SILVER AND GOLD DO NOT DO THE CORRECT THINGS TO WIN, AND IGNORE AND TROLL THE PLAYERS TRYING TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO.

If a guy knows what he is ding and says- we are ahead by x we need to group. Please listen to him next time in your games. That is really the difference between winning and losing. Even if its the wrong call its still a call. If you all do the same thing then it most times works out instead of each player doing his own thing. PLEASE LISTEN!!

18 Comments

TraakSCAug 3, 20153 votes

I looked at your game history on op.gg

A recent game you played as Lucian you went 1 kill and 13 deaths. You built a bork then boots with enchantment. Seems odd to go for Bork in the first place let alone be it your first item. Also getting Furor boot enchantment before your next damage item seems like a waste of gold as well. I won't even ask about 100 cs in 30 minutes. Maybe the problem isn't your team?

Bobbi Johnson Aug 4, 20151 votes

If you talking about me, why don't u go and look at the bulk of my games with Lucian in rank. I have over a 50% win rate ----should be better--- 7.7-5.0-7.7 Kill-death-assists per game. And I usually hit around the 60-75 cs range by 10 mins and usually finish the game with near 300 or more cs

AsianPoonHunterAug 5, 20151 votes

No he is talking about me lol - he takes one game out of around 3000 on a friday night after a bottle of rum and thinks he proves a point. I don't know what math you are taking but it wasn't statistics...

AsianPoonHunterAug 5, 20151 votes

and he is in bronze lol...figures the lowest tier dude in the conversation has the stupidest thing to say

AsianPoonHunterAug 2, 20151 votes

To my advice to those other players that are good enough to move up but are stuck BE VOCAL...VERY VOCAL and know what to do when to do it.

ShuffledPancakeAug 2, 20151 votes

Classic example of YOUR Underlined lel version of elo hell, elo hell isnt anything of this world (possibly) it is more of how you think it is since there isnt any physical OR virtual evidence of it existing since there is no definitive definition - dunno if that makes sense but k

AsianPoonHunterAug 2, 20151 votes

There is millions of users experiential evidence. Speaking of smarty pants. Who made logic logical? Some iranian dude decided 1 would be 1. Meaning logic can only be really subjective at its core since mathematics and communication, facts are all in the end decided by the individual. Take that to semantics court.

Valderis VandalaAug 6, 20151 votes

LOL Nice trolling bro. XD

Unless you are actually serious, then I weep for your poor brain.

AsianPoonHunterAug 6, 20151 votes

If I were to say logic is a self refuting argument because in the end it is based on relative perception then how would you counter it - you would use logic to try and refute a point about logic only in the end refuting yourself.

Valderis VandalaAug 6, 20151 votes

Put down the weed dude, its not healthy for you.

Bobbi Johnson Aug 2, 20151 votes

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It isn't that players are so god awful that you can't win - because you can. You can literally tell your team exactly what to do and how to play to win. Even if they are bad players it does not matter you can still win.

If a couple team players feed and go 0-4 or worse in the first 10 mins, it becomes increasingly difficult for an ADC main such as myself to do anything else besides win my own lane, which can be hard considering if their midlaner is fed and starts 3v2 bot lane. Its very easy to say what you are saying versus actually winning a game that have fed enemies unless of course you yourself are fed. Example, Nasus will feed a Vlad giving him "god-like", now our Jungler can't help because he is too OP, Vlad pushes and takes tower in first 12-13 mins. He roams bot or mid forcing me or mid lane to lose CS and in bronze they're mid lane or adc can capitalize with a fed teammate and win battles that are 3v2 in are favor

CrukAug 3, 20151 votes

Bronze silver gold and plat arent even about teamwork, you can literally 1 man carry without your team by stomping if youre skilled enough. If you arent you deserve to be where you are. Remember that the other team is JUST as likely to receive "pig-headed" teammates and trolls, more likely than your team is in fact because you are a member of your own team, you get 4 randoms, the other team has 5 randoms. Theres the math, if you belong higher than where you are, youll advance, elo hell is a really bad state of mind to get in to, because you believe that there is an excuse other than your own gameplay to justify where you are. Shit happens, and some games arent your fault, but like i said, if youre good enough, over time youll move upwards np.

AsianPoonHunterAug 5, 20151 votes

I play support and jungle as a main. What you are saying is true for people who play lanes and grab a carry role - but for support and jungle you can make crap look better than it is but it is still crap.

So I guess what you should change your comment too is you can literally 1 man carry with the right role and the right champion if you are skilled enough.

CrukAug 6, 20151 votes

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I play support and jungle as a main. What you are saying is true for people who play lanes and grab a carry role - but for support and jungle you can make crap look better than it is but it is still crap.

So I guess what you should change your comment too is you can literally 1 man carry with the right role and the right champion if you are skilled enough.

Jungle is probably one of the easiest roles to carry with, if not the easiest, you can be responsible for getting your entire team ahead early game, and also relieving lanes of all pressure, jungle is an amazingly important role, probably the most important. Support its true, cant carry as hard, but it still can carry with great engages carry=/=damage done it means the utility or pressure or play or peel you provide. Plus if you feel you cant carry with support and youre gonna be stuck, theres a simple solution, dont support lol.