Janna boots???

Archon X·Sep 11, 2015·1 votes·1,478 views

So I run 0/9/21 on which gives me 5% cdr. Right now I'm not interested in changing that to 9/0/21 for 10%, I prefer the extra defense on her.

I used to build on her to even out her cdr to 20%, plus 10% from and 10% from either or would give me my 40%.

However, I got peer pressured into getting instead and that's what I've been going with, which has left me at 25% cdr until I get an armor item, like which I don't build on if I don't need the cdr, on her I'd rather get something like

I checked the pro builds and I'm seeing a lot of which was unexpected since I thought that was a bit of a niche item on her.

http://www.probuilds.net/champions/Janna

So which way should I go? I really like going hella fast into a fight but I also like the early ability spam.

Edit: Also don't suggest , I don't build that item on a support.

9 Comments

tseiheiSep 11, 20151 votes

I either go one of two builds: sightstone>talisman/mobis> zekes/makeals>locket> ardent censor(its actually not bad for janna now) This will leave you with 40% plus what you get from runes/masteries. It is a pretty cheap build, and if you get late into the game you can replace your mobo boots with twin shadows.

If I want to go ap janna, which has been nerfed so its not as great: sightstone>ardent>zekes>twin shadows> banner of command> deathcap This is more expensive, and squishier, but I find it still rewarding to play.

I prefer mobos almost all the time since I can easily place wards for a cheap cost, but janna hits soft move caps so a lot of people prefer cdr boots.

Archon XSep 11, 20151 votes

Thank you for the reply, I also like Ardent a lot, I just usually get the armor/mr first, so ardent would be a sixth item.

Can you elaborate on the soft move cap?

DMouseslayerSep 13, 20151 votes

Soft movement cap is at 415 movement speed. Once you hit that you only get 80% of the movement speed.

As for boot choice, I really prefer Mobi's just because it allows you to ward so much easier and get away if you also have item 3069 because its pretty easy to just pop the active then run away fast until mobi's kick in and no one can catch you.

But I play AP Janna, so it might be different for you. I usually end up with 35% which is enough for me. I like sitting in back and just shielding my ADC and watch him wreck face. I also run Mejai's, so the extra movement speed helps me keep stacks up. There is something fun about giving a late game Lucian or Jinx 100 AD and extra attack speed.

Aeolian MelodiesSep 13, 20151 votes

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Soft movement cap is at 415 movement speed. Once you hit that you only get 80% of the movement speed.

As for boot choice, I really prefer Mobi's just because it allows you to ward so much easier and get away if you also have because its pretty easy to just pop the active then run away fast until mobi's kick in and no one can catch you.

But I play AP Janna, so it might be different for you. I usually end up with 35% which is enough for me. I like sitting in back and just shielding my ADC and watch him wreck face. I also run Mejai's, so the extra movement speed helps me keep stacks up. There is something fun about giving a late game Lucian or Jinx 100 AD and extra attack speed.

I tend to play her with AP too unless we're struggling as a team and we need the defensive utility item 3190 item 3222 .

Otherwise my favourite Janna build looks like this:

item 3069 (best income item for Janna and best active out of all the income items) item 2045 (only upgrade when it's the last thing to do) item 1327 (roaming + passive synergy) item 3023 (CDR, nice active, 80 ap without feeling guilty!) item 3165 (CDR, AP, mana regen, nice passive but cost efficient even without it) item 3504 / item 3050 (used to always but the new is very good, I take if we're sieging a lot and if we're more into team fights) item 3364 (of course!)

So I end up with capped CDR, all the mana regen ever, good utility and decent AP. I prefer Janna with some AP as her shield and heal scale nicely (her heal just got its ratio nerfed but it's still very strong imo).

Most games I'll need at least one defensive utility item so realistically it looks more like this

item 3069 item 3222 item 1327 item 2045 item 3050 item 3504 item 3364 <- this "ADC best butt buddy" build, I like a lot XD

tseiheiSep 11, 20151 votes

Movement speed caps

When the raw movement speed is greater than 415, there are two soft caps applied:
The raw speed between 415 and 490 gets multiplied by 80%.
The raw speed over 490 gets multiplied by 50%. 

This was from the lol wiki site.

basically once you reach 415+ movement you only get 80% of the bonus, and at 490, you only get 50% of the bonus. Since janna reaches 400+ movement with just t1 boots and her w, going mobos means you don't get as much movement as you are paying for.

Archon XSep 11, 20151 votes

Oh that's fucking weak. Thanks for letting me know, that's +1 for Ionian boots.

Aeolian MelodiesSep 12, 20151 votes

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Oh that's fucking weak. Thanks for letting me know, that's +1 for Ionian boots.

Well with the typical Janna items item 3190 item 3069 item 3222 and item 3050 / item 3504 , you take no advantage at all of the CDR on item 3158 . Now that's fucking weak.

Aeolian MelodiesSep 12, 20151 votes

I have been a support main for five years.

I always loathed CDR boots.

Support builds are PACKED with CDR and it's hard enough to not overcap it even without taking these damn boots into consideration.

If you're not getting Mobis for uber map presence, either get defensive boots for extra surviability, or even Swiftness if they mostly have slows/if you want to have a permanent edge in speed (even in combat and even with W down).

For items I like

item 3190 item 3023 item 3165 item 3504 item 3060 item 3050 among others. oh and item 3222

Gym Leader YakiSep 12, 20151 votes

Getting CDR on supports is super easy. Don't feel pressured by getting item 3158 . You can easily get way over the cap without any cdr runes, masteries or . item 3117 is a great buy if you feel like roaming or getting to lane faster. Janna's shield doesn't interrupt the movespeed buff from Mobi's. Nothing stops you from selling them late game and switching them for the other.