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K54··2 votes·719 views

When using Fizz Akali After getting your item 3100 item 3020 item 3089 item 3151 Would you consider a item 1053 ? I haven't done it yet, but it's crossed my mind after a few team fights/exchanges where I've been forced to recall due to being low health afterwards. I figured the reaction from my teammates would be WTF once they see a item 1036 get purchased after I already have SPELL BLADE from item 3100.

Is this something that "pros" actually do, or am I at high risk of being called a troll?

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Sirin Gioro1 votes

item 3151 is bad on Akali and Fizz item 3135 is core on both of those champions, no liandries Liandries is only good on Rumble, Vel'Koz, Brand, Corki (if you want more magic), etc. item 3146 (which needs item 1053 to build) is core on Akali though

K541 votes

I run item 3151 because in my elo B5 :'( nobody builds MR when I'm using champs likeFizz Katarina Akali so I don't benefit much from the 35% MR boost. 35% of 54 is 19. With my runes and sorcerer's shoes I get 35 MagPen, add Liandry's and that's 50 MagPen, which is about 90% of a any champions base level 18 stats. Add the damage from the unique passive (almost like an ignite with a item 3165 and actually ignite your target, I can jump Q > W > AA then use my E to hop away and let them fall to the ignite and passive.

My masteries also give me the 6% ignore Armor/MR so that totally negates the need for item 3135 in my elo. Though I'm sure it comes in very handy in higher elos, I haven't had a use for it in my matchups.

Originally all favorite champions were AD champs and Ahri , but because teams are mainly AD, the tanks mostly build armor and health with a item 3065 which honestly puts them right back at level 18 base MR with my build. They have about 100 - 110 MR, my build negates 50, puts them back at 50 - 60 mr.

If I take item 3135 over item 3151 , that would leave them with 36 MR but I wouldn't have that extra damage at the end. I could have both in my item set making the MR 24.5 but then I have to decide what's the better last item out of item 3116 item 3157item 3165 when I can have all 3. I know what I'm about to say is very noob, but I tend to drop the shoes late game when I can do enough damage that I don't really have to worry about escaping and more so just relying on my flash and E to close the gap.

FedAsFuk1 votes

Not to sound flamey or anything but building an item because a lack of MR at your elo doesn't make it gold efficient. Void staff is a better item on most champions, it is more gold efficient for the champions you are playing. The easiest way to climb is to build PORPERLY, which is not build this because at this elo it seems okay. There are real factual reasons why items are built on champions, determined primarily by Koreans because they have learned that numbers don't lie. Again not trying to sound like im flaming or an ass just that there are factual numbers behind the builds.

Side Note: VOid staff is the same as LW it applies BEFORE MAGIC PENETRATION, basically eliminating 35% of their MR stat completely. THat is why it is a far better item

FedAsFuk1 votes

So for example how you said you get runes and masteries giving you bonus magic pen, void staff removes 35% of the magic resist BEFORE applying those

ZergReap1 votes

item 3146 is viable on Akali you should get it first. Even start with item 1036 to help with last hitting early.

xDoubleFlashx1 votes

I agree with everyone about building the Hextech on Akali, but I wouldn't recommend it on Fizz. If you want life steal on Fizz, I'd suggest a more Hybrid based build. Try a tri force, hextech, and a frozen mallet. I've seen a few games where fizz with this build did crazy good. :)

GummyBearWookiee1 votes

There's nothing wrong with it..what people are saying about the hexblade on Akali is on point. As both these champions though...you generally want to stay back out of the fight and pick your input point...doing so tends to lessen the damage you generally receive and will help to eleviate the need to either constantly back or a desire for the vamp scepter.

One thing though...sadly AP Fizz is dead...he got nerfed so hard he's not really worth it. Instead try running him with a Tri-Force and a BoTRK. AD Fizz is much MUCH stronger at the moment. Look up some builds on him at probuilds.net and you'll see that that's currently the way to go for Captain Troll Pole.

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