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Ardent censer on Alistar??

Archon X··1 votes·1,690 views

Is it viable? He has a spammable aoe heal so he could proc it for the entire team more than once in a teamfight.

12 Comments

StoryDuck2 votes

You could. I would only do so if the majority of your team is AA reliant or low on damage. Honestly though, most of the time you just want more tanky/engage stuff for Alistar.

TehNACHO1 votes

Personally, I enjoy CDR/Utility Alistar over raw tankiness, what with his already solid ultimate.

StoryDuck1 votes

I would still get items like item 3143 and item 3800. Also, if you wanted to add DPS to the team get item 3050 and place it on your ADC. Ardent can have uses too but with Alistar's ability to dive right into the middle of a team the actives on these would be very helpful

TehNACHO1 votes

Personally I consider Righteous to be more on the utility side of tank items, due to the major purpose of buying it is for its active, not its raw stats.

But yeah, my point was I'd rather take advantage of my innate tankiness to provide more to the team than just be a meanwhile with a neat combo.

Nick Valentine1 votes

Ardent Censer is not a bad item for someone like Sona/Soraka or even Karma if they want to help a specific adc like Vayne or Kalista or have players like Irelia on their team. The reason why Alistar doesn't usually get this is because his heal range is quite low and is not targetable as well as the base stats (AP etc) are wasted on him compared to other more preferable items.

Duke Anax1 votes

I wouldn't say that AP is wasted on him. I once played AP Alistar in Jungle and the in fight sustain was unreal. That heal can actually give you more HP than any Cinderhulk build.

But i agree than in a Support position other stats and items are more beneficial.

tseihei1 votes

Zeles herald is probably a better choice on alistar.

The mana is enough for him, he doesn't really require regen all that much. The armor is better than the ap that ardent would give. The damage you team gains is most likely going to be higher with zekes. The CDR provided is the same as well.

Overall zekes is better offensively and defensely.

Duke Anax1 votes

Aktually Herald gives more AP than Censer, even when not active. So the Armor is on top of that, not instead.

Meep Man1 votes

Anyone with a quick to apply heal/shield, especially AoE, benefits from Ardent a good bit.

TouchpadExpert1 votes

There's better out there. It's not as short a cool down as other healers.

Duke Anax1 votes

Ardent was good on Alistar before the patch when it affected Minions. Alistar is known for great pushing, so that effect synergized really well.

However the item itself is not that well suited for Alistar and even the teamwide damage buff doesn't make up for that.mm

junglerboy161 votes

tried it, it is mostly a gimmick and doesn't work nearly as well now that it doesn't buff minions.

Before that change it was a splitpushing wonder item.

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