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Talon/LeBlanc no silence PLEASE HELP ME!

K54·2/4/2015, 9:48:58 PM·1 votes·995 views

1 particular matchup has been giving me a very hard time since her silence has been removed. LeBlanc vs Ahri

Ahri was a champion I've never in my LoL history ever lost a lane battle with while using LB, ever! "Sigil of Silence" into your W, then immediately E. Q > W > E or Q > W > R > E or Q > W > E > R which is now impossible to use the full combo because LB is too squishy and Ahri has a safe burst in her charm along with passive spell vamp. I feel like my LB is naked now. Good Ahri's now to throw the Q in the original W location, to activate her fox fires once she's marked with LB Q, and then she can easily finish with her R or escape if she needs to.

As for Talon, Ahri can activate her fox fire, Diana can activate her orb thingies, Lissandra can freeze him instantly on the arrival of his teleport. I always specifically thought as Talon as an anti-mage assassin and his great for a lot of mid lane matchups. Now, he's just like a Xin, except his teleport does no damage and the slow effect wears off immediately. A Wukong without the speed boost. An Irelia who doesn't deal damage with her gap closer. A Katarina who doesn't have a real reason for you to fear her arrival.

Notice every champ with a dash/teleport (instant gap closer type ability) has some type of trade off in the move itself that makes them a threat on arrival or in their other abilities. When Talon arrives behind you now, it's like a complete joke. It's like he put himself in a worse position.

True, I'm not even close to be a League of Legends master and I really wasn't that good with Talon even before his silence was removed. I had my good games and my bad games. But now... I only have bad games. If anybody has the time or patience to show me the proper way to use Talon (because I love him and spent money buying him and all his skins), please send a friend request to Keddrick in game and show me the proper way to use him or reply with some new strategies that have worked for you.

My old combo was always Q > E > W > Q > R, of course enemies being silenced for a second and only being able to basic attack which made them retreat instead of trying to fight back after the combo was over. But now the second I press E, I'm a trading blows situation that I really shouldn't be in against the champions I've laned against. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!

4 Comments

ccseancc1432/5/2015, 1:34:32 AM1 votes

I play Talon ALOT and honestly Lissandra dumpsters Talon until really late game where you can assassinate her with your stealth fast enough before she can Ult or Zhoynas. Her stun completely counters you. Ahri isn't as bad but, her kites are really annoying, what you have to do is bait out her Q or Charm then engage. Ahri loses alot of damage for trades when she uses Q to farm so engage the minute you see her throwing it, works the same with charm but, not as good. The key to Talon now pretty much is , if you can't one shot them don't engage with E. Just poke until you can. E is a pretty useless spell aside from the blink early game since it really provides no utility. Pre-six Talon is even weaker now in lane so you have to be very careful when engaging now.

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Count Doku2/5/2015, 5:19:28 PM1 votes

In short, there is some actual counter-play now since the silences were removed, learn to deal with it. They both still 100-0 most matchups if you play it correctly.

ElectrixX2/6/2015, 5:33:00 AM1 votes

Talon is my main and honestly I don't think he needs a silence. Just make sure you get a good start and build armour pen and you should be fine.

K542/6/2015, 11:16:52 AM1 votes

To add insult to injury after taking away Talon's silence, he has very poor mana pool. It's impossible to win a lane against anybody!

Zed, Lee Sin, Akali, Rengar, Katarina don't have freaking mana!

Talon gets absolutely owned by every top lane champ, even when he had silence in early game laning phase. So top lane was never really an option. Then you have the fact he gets destroyed mid lane cause he doesn't have a freaking silence. Last but not least, by the time I finally poke somebody down enough to use my proc Q > E > W > R combo, I don't have enough mana left to use my damned ult!

Talons only real use right now is jungler and in all honesty, unless you make him an energy champion, he's completely obselete.

Don't get me wrong, when I get my late game build, I destroy and carry my team to victory, but that's only after going 0/6 the 1st 20 minutes of match, team trying to forfeit and raging at me for being a feeder.