Ganking too punishable?

im matt lmfao·5/11/2015, 2:32:09 AM·1 votes·776 views

Okay, I know a lot of people may not agree with me... But am I the only person who feels like the jungler ganks are such low risk for a such high reward?

I mean of course, Vision helps, but there's always away around vision, sweepers and what not.

I mean, once it immediately turns into a 2v1, you have to use something so limited like a flash or some type of escape plan to get out, which can lead to you backing and losing some farm / CS. and in bronze, after 3 minutes the ADC and Support are already mid, so its pretty much hard to get good CS in bronze when they group 3 minutes in the game.

I feel like the junglers (especially the tanky ones with the constant CC) .... (Nautilus Sejuani ) are a big deal in this current meta and is pretty simple to use to change a whole entire game around. Just my thoughts.

What can I do to make it less punishable?

4 Comments

Commit Sudoku5/11/2015, 3:16:33 AM2 votes

I mean depending on where 1 jungler ganks that can effect dragon control or he wont be there to counter gank the enemy jungler it isn't as low risk as you think.

Lol tfw you just realize you could have asked me this in client.

BluePolarizer5/11/2015, 4:50:18 AM1 votes

Depends. Some junglers are very high risk when ganking because they HAVE to gank and snowball to be impactful later on because they clear the jungle slowly/take huge damage in the jungle and thus need to farm enemy champions.

Khazix Shaco XinZhao Pantheon Rengar

Tank junglers are lower risk because they don't need to snowball to be good mid/late game.

Of course, farming carry junglers are the lowest risk to themselves, but if a snowball jungler is on the enemy team AND they succeed in ganking, its hard to come back.

AyRe CoNteMpT5/11/2015, 8:28:42 AM1 votes

well you see, generally a jungler has less gold and experience than a solo laner just by being a jungler. only the few very fastest of all junglers can break even with laners and even outfarm them goldwise, but those junglers lack brute gankingpower as tradeoff. this means, most junglers need to either farm hard or gank hard to not fall behind automatically.

if a jungler tries to gank you, and you see him in a ward and waste some of his time, even if its just 10 seconds of sitting in a bush, it is basically as if you had ganked the jungler in his own jungle since he wasted so much time achieving nothing, risking to get counterjungled or lose pressure on objectives/lanes.

so remember, whenever a jungler tries to gank, he risks losing the same amount of time and gold that you would lose if the gank would be successfull. make his ganks fail and you effectively set him behind. he does that 2-3 times and he will be too weak to ever gank effectively or be usefull in teamfights due to behind 3 levels behind. junglers life is a hard life.