[Bronze V] Any Ideas on how to get out of bronze?

im matt lmfao·5/2/2015, 10:07:43 AM·2 votes·1,395 views

Personally, I don't believe in elo hell.

From levels 1-30 I mained Sona support. I always played Sona constantly, whenever I can.

I love playing Support as it is one of my favorite roles but as I moved into ranked I stopped being a fan of one of my favorite roles because its very hard to carry a whole team as a support.

No I'm not saying "OMG MY TEAM IS SO STUPID" Because they aren't, I make mistakes just like they do. The difference is I know I make mistakes unlike them.

Futhermore, I've been playing mid and doing fairly well, at one point I used Sona mid to get me to Bronze IV but I stopped doing it because everyone hated me for it.

My main concern is how the hell am I going to get out of Bronze? I'm learning how to CS much better, I RARELY feed now, but sometimes I can't carry my team, and I'm trying to figure out what it is I NEED TO DO when I get fed. How do I make sure we win when I'M fed? I don't like to be fed and not being able to make sure my team does okay.

Here are my champions I play in ranked

  1. Top: MonkeyKing Nasus
  2. Jungle: Amumu
  3. Mid: Leblanc Katarina Kayle Sona Brand Chogath
  4. ADC: Caitlyn Sivir
  5. Support; Sona Nunu Nami Alistar

22 Comments

Gym Leader Yaki5/2/2015, 12:21:51 PM3 votes

I just got to Gold 4 two days ago and I was thinking of tips that would help lower ranked players :

  1. Mute all chat at all times: You don't need any source of distraction from the enemy team.
  2. ** Listen to music**: This will help you focus and concentrate on your game. It also relaxes you.
  3. Play a small champion pool: Minimum 2 champion per lane, maximum of 5. Try having around 10-18 champions in your pool. Always practice them. This way you'll get a lot better than most people because you'll have more experience and will lower the chances of messing up/less mistakes.
  4. Use easy to play champions: In this Elo you'll learn MUCH faster by playing knowledge based champions than skill based champions. You won't have to focus as much on skill shots, but more on the actual gameplay. Also, many of those knowledge based champions can still be used as you gain Elo :]
  5. Last but not least STAY POSITIVE: You have NO IDEA just how powerful positive reinforcement is on a team. So many games I was bound to loose, but simply by encouraging my team and telling them we could do it, we played seriously until the end and turned around at least 2 games in my placements. In every single ranked game you'll hear me say "GOOD JOB MAN! :D" or other sentences alike. The teams morale won't get lowered and your chances of success will skyrocket.

You can't just stay positive for a few games, but ALL of your ranked games. No matter win or loose, ALWAYS stay positive and I'm guaranteed you will gain more Elo.

Best Darius KR5/2/2015, 11:43:31 AM2 votes

Wow, so you mained Sona from levels 1-30? That's impressive

There is a lot of stuff to talk about when it comes to "Getting out of bronze" and summarizing it into a single post is really hard, but i will leave my thoughts here

From my experience (and from the people that coached me out of bronze), it shouldn't be hard to have a 50%+ winrate if you feel you can control the game.

It is you who must kill your lane. It is you who must snowball your lane (and sometimes your team). It is you who must make sure your lane opponent does NOT get fed. It is you who must contest objectives. It is you who must make the game a nightmare to play for your enemies.

Do you get the point? It's not that easy since this is a team game, but you should start by trying to get a perfect laning phase. By that i mean: -Perfect CSing -Shutting down your opponent -Getting kills for yourself -Getting your tower first (talking from a top laner point of view, but i think this applies to every role except support)

After that, focus on the enemy's jungler position. Try to know AT ALL TIMES where he is, is he at his red side, blue side, mid lane, bot lane, dragon pit, anywhere he is, you must know. It will save you a lot of death's from ganks that you weren't expecting.

Finally, after you feel you can get powerful in the laning phase and feel where the enemy is, you should work out on getting a plan for your games. "What will i do when i get my tower?", "Can i contest the second dragon?", "Can i help midlane get his tower?", "Can i kill their jungler while he is doing his red?" are all questions you should ask before AND during your game.

TSK XI Widow IX5/2/2015, 11:09:15 AM2 votes

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Miku Lv995/2/2015, 10:21:36 AM2 votes
  1. Focus on getting good with fewer champions. If you really play that whole list you're probably only really that good with 1 or 2 of them.

  2. Buy lots of wards. That'll help your team get caught a lot less which means it's a lot harder for them to just throw games.

  3. If you're fed, try roaming and getting kills in other lanes. Also try to get dragons whenever you get a kill if it hasn't been taken yet.

  4. This is really the most important thing there is to know in order to win games in low elo. Mid/late game, you need either everyone on your team to push a lane, or no one to push any lanes. If some people are pushing and some aren't, expect the ones that are to get stuck in some bad position in a fight where they're outnumbered and just get wrecked. If you all push at once it's safe since they can't outnumber you in one lane without giving up an objective in another lane. So when you see that player pushing but the whole team isn't, ping them to back off. And if everyone on your team is pushing but you, then push. Also if enemies are dead, push. Get something out of it. Especially late game, if you chase 1 more kill but it took you so long that 2 enemies respawned, then getting that kill was NOT worth it. End game especially is about getting objectives, not more money.

Sukishoo5/2/2015, 6:30:29 PM1 votes

When I was in bronze I supported constantly and used Janna to get places. She had a lot more power to help carry a team.

Sirin Gioro5/2/2015, 6:57:29 PM1 votes

Don't "fill", filling is stupid cause you can play five roles DECENTLY but not two roles VERY WELL; Decent = can't carry, Very well = high carrying potential. I played only Nami support from Bronze 1 to Silver last season. This season, I played ADC and Support from Bronze 2 to Silver 2. Right now, I'm trying to be an Ezreal one trick pony. Main two champions and two roles. I'd suggest mid/jungle/ADC. be good at those two roles and champions. Also, focus on objectives every game.

Provengreil5/2/2015, 10:33:22 PM1 votes

I'm only silver 5, but this might help.

Tip 1: There's an awesome site called Wardscore. It's telling me that you ward above...18% of players. As a support main, this is an issue. My wardscore is 87%, and honestly much of that is warding dragon before trying it. However, here's the catch on "warding dragon":

One ward doesn't cut it. 4 of the little bastards do. From blue side, drop a pink in the spot brush, sweep dragon and clear a bit of their vision, ward the bush near the river entrance, ward near their blue, and ward either that bush back in their jungle near the wolf camp, or the brush separating mid lane from river if the other ward is unsafe to try. You have to keep dragon timer by using tab and have these in place a minimum of 45 seconds in advance: even bronze now keeps drag timer, but they rarely prepare properly. with the huge importance placed on dragon fights in everything below like silver 1, you'll have near perfect vision in almost every meaningful teamfight before like 35 minutes. that alone should be worth nearly a division with some practice. your experience with vision gained just from watching a few fights develop like this will sharpen your instincts for more fluid warding later.

Tip 2: that's too many mid champs. Kayle is a bit underpowered unfortunately, and I say this as someone who loves her. while all of your mid champs are good, I'd cut the options down to LeBlanc, Cho, and Sona. Sona only because she's your main, and that specialty will pay off with time. LeBlanc has a bit of a fear factor to her, lots of lower level players are heavily intimidated by her. Cho is generally tough to deal with because peel and kiting are not prevalent in lower levels.

Also, I would personally swap Sivir for Ashe. If you want a utility ADC, that's fine, but comparing Ashe to Sivir is like Leona to Bard: the rest of your team has much clearer indications of what you want them to do when you use your moves.

Tip 3: As much as it might sound strange, you might have to play worse to get better. I have this issue myself: I'm not so much shy as I am objective focused, but there's just not much a soraka can do when mid and top ping the bottom outer turret, then dive midlane inner while zac is getting blue buff and adc wants wolves. So....try to be where the random action is, aka the midlane dive, and just try to make a pointless fight at least come out in your own favor. You'll probably die more, but a bad plan followed well is better than a good plan everyone's ignoring.

Tip 4: wave management. While this is usually something you wouldn't see anyone below bronze one or two even knowing about, and as a support you'd often get yelled at for even trying, there is one easymode to it:

The Banner of Command.

Banner a cannon minion going top, then ping the shit out of dragon and start warding. faff around with all ten players there for a few minutes, and then 9 of them will report a bug when it says the dead sona destroyed a tower from halfway across the map.

TLDR: there are battles you can win by default in the lowest of bronze just by playing them at all. win there and gather that momentum.

BluePolarizer5/2/2015, 11:04:15 PM1 votes

Gold 1 jungle/top/support main here.

  1. The most high impact roles in a game are mid, jungle and support. The reason is, these are the 3 lanes that are the most mobile on the map and can influence the most lanes. Top is pretty much an island unless you are Pantheon or have TP, at which point you should seek to make plays with ult or TP. Support and mid are crucial because they provide the bulk of ranged CC on a team. If you don't have ranged CC, you're going to have to hard engage. Hard engaging is only good when at an advantage, either gold wise or positioning wise. Ranged CC lets you pick off lone opponents much easier.

  2. Never mute your jungler. He will make calls. If you mute your jungler and die, it is your fault. It is usually wise to not mute mid or support either, as mid/support will also participate in shot calling especially for ganking. It is almost always safe to mute your ADC after laning phase, and most of the time muting top is fine too. When I top I almost never talk in chat and just seek to farm, while if I'm jungling I'm always strategizing. If I'm support or mid I follow jungler most of the time for objectives, but shot call for ganks.

  3. Always be where the opponent doesn't want you to be and never be where they want you. Take dragon while the enemy jungler or mid are top, hover in the jungle to gank enemy mid during their own ganks, just always be unpredictable.

pE4CbxDPQO5/3/2015, 1:16:34 AM1 votes

Add Annie to your mid pool.

Big Hans5/4/2015, 9:38:18 AM1 votes

Play only a few or just one champion really good. Preferrably on that is also a high damage dealer.

Ward. If you arent the support with a sightstone then upgrade your free trinket at 9. You will automatically be a plat level warder. Its amazing how many (90%) people dont upgrade their trinkets ever. Even after there is nothing to spend money on.

IcyPepper5/2/2015, 10:25:56 AM1 votes

You used to main support? Then do what I did and give adc a shot.

If you combine last-hitting and trading skills of the adc, and map awareness and teamfight positioning (if you mained Sona and ever faced Blitzcrank Leona Thresh you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about), you'll do just fine. A lot of adc's I've seen don't know how to position well, and never pay attention to the map and/or buy wards or use that damn trinket.

At the very least, you're taking the role that usually wards the least, so with good habits your team won't have that handicap anymore. And btw, a new trick I've learned is to switch to blue and upgrade at level 9, but starting with green/yellow trinket until then. It's amazing.

PubgamerAU5/2/2015, 11:12:39 AM1 votes

Play champions that do a lot of damage, then farm. Just farm farm farm. Don't play an assassin like Leblanc unless you have relatively good mechanics, which at Bronze V you likely don't.

Kat is a good champion to escape bronze with if they don't auto-ban her(I think they do). She's great at poke, farm, AND 1v1.

Seriously, the best thing you can do to escape bronze is to just farm your ass off. Aim for 250+ cs before the end of the game. If a game lasts at least 25 minutes and you don't have 250 cs, than you need to keep improving until you do.

JustGotFired5/2/2015, 3:16:46 PM1 votes

Play OP Champs Crank some background music, maybe off of iheartradio If you win a game with a certain role, try to play that role again. If you lose a game with a certain role, switch to a different one.

In my personal experience, do not play support unless its you're first ranked game, or you are forced into it. You can not carry as a support, unless you pull off the amazing flash ult, but you'd have to trust your teammates to follow up. If you want greatest influence over the game, play tank jungle/top with lots of crowd control.